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Offline Tom-ADC

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M3 Fighting knife
« on: August 27, 2014, 05:02:40 PM »
Bought one today well sort of its missing the guard and the pommel but it only cost $10, bad news no idea who made it somebody sand all that info off.
The bag has the leather washers for the handle in it.

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Re: M3 Fighting knife
« Reply #1 on: August 27, 2014, 08:29:59 PM »
Tom, how long is that blade?
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Re: M3 Fighting knife
« Reply #2 on: August 27, 2014, 09:53:55 PM »
The M3 was manufactured by a number of U.S. knife and cutlery manufacturers during the war. Manufacturers known to have made the M3 under wartime contract include the Aerial Cutlery Co., W. R. Case & Sons Cutlery Co., Imperial Knife Co., PAL Cutlery Co., Camillus Cutlery Co., Robeson (ShurEdge) Cutlery Co., Kinfolks Inc., Utica Cutlery Co., and H. Boker & Co.
(Note: The manufacturers name was not necessarily imprinted on the knife, as it was under contract by one manufacturer, who then subcontracted it)
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The M3 fighting knife or M3 trench knife was an American military combat knife first issued in March 1943. The M3 was originally designated for issue to soldiers not otherwise equipped with a bayonet. However, it was particularly designed for use by elite or 'shock' forces in need of a close-combat knife such as airborne troops and Army Rangers, and these units received priority for the M3 at the start of production.
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Reports of blade failures on M3s in service increased as soldiers began to use their trench knives for ordinary utility tasks such as opening ammo crates and food ration tins, a role for which the M3 had not been designed.
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Though the M3 had competed with the USMC 1219C2 for approval by the Army, the M3, unlike the Marine Corps knife, was not a dual-purpose weapon designed for both close combat (fighting knife) and general use (utility knife). As the U.S. Catalog of Standard Ordnance Items of 1943 clearly explained:

Officially the blade was 6.75"

(The Marines fighting knife subsequently became known as the KaBar as they were the primary contractor(But they were not known by that name during WW II).
Prior to WW II  the main "fighting knife"  was designated the MK 1 IIRC. but it was like the M3 in shape and design.
It had a propensity to break at the tip if used as a utility knife (dig trench, open crates or C-rats).
The Marines requested an new design much sturdier. thus the Kabar. IIRC it was officially designated as MK II.
And because the Marines are part of the Navy officially. IN the beginning many were stamped  Navy Mk II during WW II,  Later they were stamped USMC







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Re: M3 Fighting knife
« Reply #3 on: August 28, 2014, 10:52:16 AM »
DD great info/history on the knives (T^ I did find a NOS pommel now if only a guard will show up.
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Re: M3 Fighting knife
« Reply #4 on: August 28, 2014, 01:35:56 PM »
DD great info/history on the knives (T^ I did find a NOS pommel now if only a guard will show up.
To be original you need to find an original  but if need be to make it functional you can make one from steel strap.

Some other research indicates that M3( was almost always stamped) or manufacturer may have been stamped in.
If he filed or sanded that much off he had to go quite deep to do it.
if you google or Ebay search you will find a lot of pictures of the knife.
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Re: M3 Fighting knife
« Reply #5 on: September 03, 2014, 05:43:47 PM »
Pommel showed up, fits good I have a line on a guard just waiting for a answer, even found a repop sheath, my brother had it said it needs to be finished but will send it.
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Re: M3 Fighting knife
« Reply #6 on: September 04, 2014, 12:14:03 PM »
Tom, post some pictures up when you can.  ;)
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Re: M3 Fighting knife
« Reply #7 on: September 04, 2014, 12:18:53 PM »
Sam no more yet on the above knife but I just bought this small lot of knives I plan on restoring.

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Re: M3 Fighting knife
« Reply #8 on: September 04, 2014, 01:27:51 PM »
Tom, the left side knife...I like that style of knife.
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Re: M3 Fighting knife
« Reply #9 on: September 12, 2014, 03:20:55 PM »
Here;s a little progress on the knife in the top photo, those are the original leather washers. found a pommel and made the guard. I'll do a little hand sanding and finish it with Blackrock leather n rich.

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