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Offline Tom-ADC

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My Smith Carbine
« on: October 20, 2011, 09:38:34 AM »
I haven't shot this very much maybe 25 rounds, previous owner probably not much more. Fun gun though, this is a Pietta copy.
I've even thought of selling it because I don't shoot it, safe queen.

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Re: My Smith Carbine
« Reply #1 on: October 20, 2011, 11:55:51 AM »
Sweet rifle there.  Tell a little about your Naval career.

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« Reply #2 on: October 20, 2011, 12:35:53 PM »
Thanks, I served from 11/58 until 11/79 mostly involved with turbo-prop aircraft, the E2 Hawkeye, C2 Greyhound and C-130 also crew on C1A Trader, spent a year in Da Nang RVN. Did time as a instructor (hardest duty I ever had) used to stutter bad up until the Navy sent me to instructor school. I hve over 100 landing and take offs from aircraft carriers & from 69-71 made at least one of each from every US carrier we owned except the USS Lexington, made three cruises one on the Kitty Hawk and two  the USS Independence. Finished at NAS Miramar where I was in charge of the jet shop.
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Re: My Smith Carbine
« Reply #3 on: October 20, 2011, 02:20:02 PM »
Hello Tom

Nice career. Thank you for sharing with us. I know Miramar from the 80s movie "TOP GUN"  ])M
The weapon looks very nice. I know it's a .50 caliber weapon.
What kind of ammo is laying around the weapon? I'm a little bit confused, because it's a BP weapon, right  ???

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Re: My Smith Carbine
« Reply #4 on: October 20, 2011, 02:38:36 PM »
It's an early breech loader Marc, came out in 1857, uses a ( the originals) rubber cartridge and a cap.  Ammo was always a pain with this carbine, without the proper rubber cartridge gas leakage was a real problem, and even sometimes with it.  They made them during the war and it was the number one breech loader until the Spencer came along.  The modern repops use a brass cartridge, I have handled them. but not fired them, I had a couple of originals walk into the shop a few years ago, the owner knew I was into that stuff and wanted to know what the were.  His grandfather had bought them from Bannerman in the 20's to use for decoration, they were in super condition.  I offered three grand on the spot but he didn't want to part with them.
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« Reply #5 on: October 20, 2011, 02:43:10 PM »
Thx Rock for your detailed explanation and the whole info. Now I'm a little smarter than yesterday  ;)
I was just wondering what kind of ammo in laying around. I'm far away to be an expert, but I know that you can't shoot regular cartridges with these kind of weapons  ])M

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« Reply #6 on: October 20, 2011, 02:54:21 PM »
On the original Smith civil war time frame the ammo was rubber cases with the .515 345 gr bullet you push a button inside the trigger guard to break open the rifle, load the cartridge, close rifle go to half cock add percussion cap, full cock and pull trigger. Mine works just like that except the cases are plastic, the ones you see have 28 grs of Swiss 1.5Fg topped with cream of wheat with a cast 345 gr bullet .515 dia. Thats a target load, a full power load would be 40 grains of powder. The plastic cases are good for 8 to10 reloads. They do make brass cases that last forever. Its accurate and fun to shoot, easy to clean.
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Re: My Smith Carbine
« Reply #7 on: October 20, 2011, 03:46:54 PM »
Not a great picture, but the plastic cases and bullets plus a couple of loaded rounds. Bullet is .515 and 345 grains. I put a small 1/4 " dia smiley sticky over the hole in the bottom of the case before adding powder the percussion cap just blows right thru it.

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Re: My Smith Carbine
« Reply #8 on: October 20, 2011, 04:10:08 PM »
thats a very nice carbine tom and id like to say thanx fer your service to our great country and all the sacrifices, large and small you may have made during yer service    THANK YOU!!
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Re: My Smith Carbine
« Reply #9 on: October 20, 2011, 05:15:01 PM »
Thanks gentlemen brings a tear to this old chiefs eye.
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« Reply #10 on: October 20, 2011, 06:06:58 PM »
Thanks gentlemen brings a tear to this old chiefs eye.

Hey Chief, when were you aboard the Forrestal?

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Re: My Smith Carbine
« Reply #11 on: October 20, 2011, 06:11:11 PM »
Thanks gentlemen brings a tear to this old chiefs eye.

Hey Chief, when were you aboard the Forrestal?

Just long enough to drop off the mail, pax & cargo and reload the plane and get off. Never made a cruise on it, can't tell you how many trips to her log book burned up in a garage fire 1983.
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« Reply #12 on: October 20, 2011, 06:21:15 PM »
Given the timeframes, you might of been aboard when my dad was there  He was CO from late '68 till late '69.

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« Reply #13 on: October 20, 2011, 06:32:53 PM »
If he was deployed in 69 to the Gulf of Tonkin I was there.
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« Reply #14 on: October 20, 2011, 06:37:59 PM »
I'll check his logs and let you know.  That would be cool - a "small world" story.