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Offline rio grande

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Remington #10 caps loose on Pietta
« on: October 14, 2019, 09:22:47 PM »
Got a brasser "NMA" at a gun show without a cylinder. Ordered a new Pietta cylinder and bought new #10 Remington caps, and they fit too loose, just fall off. A couple years back I had a Pietta NMA and the Rem #10  caps were a perfect fit.
Are CCI #10's a bit smaller?
Any ideas? I really hate to buy new cones.

BTW, the new cylinder from Cabela's fit really well, no problems at all.
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Re: Remington #10 caps loose on Pietta
« Reply #1 on: October 14, 2019, 10:47:16 PM »

Are CCI #10's a bit smaller?
 

They seem to be for me. On my stock Pietta cones CCI 10's are a tighter fit than Remington 10's.
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Re: Remington #10 caps loose on Pietta
« Reply #2 on: October 19, 2019, 09:32:43 PM »
Never had an issue with Piettas and Remington #10s. Is it possible the nipples are not original?
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Re: Remington #10 caps loose on Pietta
« Reply #3 on: October 20, 2019, 12:01:18 PM »
Pinch the caps just a little bit and they will fit without falling off.
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Re: Remington #10 caps loose on Pietta
« Reply #4 on: October 21, 2019, 11:18:02 PM »
Never had an issue with Piettas and Remington #10s. Is it possible the nipples are not original?

Oh, they are original. Came with a brand new Pietta replacement cylinder from Cabelas.
Tried for fit some CCI # 10's and they did fit much better. 
Maybe I got a bad batch from Remington.
I'm not too keen on pinching caps. I want 'em to fit right, though I might use those oversize caps at the range for just fooling around.
For serious stuff I want the caps to fit right. I mean when I put those Rem #10's on the nipples they'd just fall off.

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Re: Remington #10 caps loose on Pietta
« Reply #5 on: October 22, 2019, 04:26:59 AM »
Hello rio grande,

The BM would be from 1999, also at one point Pietta changed the width of the Bolt & Notch.
Make sure your cylinder is tight at full battery, if it can rotate back & forth you might need to install a new Bolt.

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Re: Remington #10 caps loose on Pietta
« Reply #6 on: October 22, 2019, 06:04:31 AM »
Hi rio grande, CCI #10 caps are indeed smaller than most #10 Remington caps. Uberti specifies #11 caps, but both CCI and Remington #10 caps work will. Pietta specifies #10 caps. While I haven't seen this with CCI caps, I have seen where different cans of Remington caps are different size irrespective of the label. I have one can of #10 Remington caps where the caps are too small to put on Pietta nipples. I question Remington caps quality control.

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Re: Remington #10 caps loose on Pietta
« Reply #7 on: October 23, 2019, 08:13:16 PM »
Hello rio grande,

The BM would be from 1999, also at one point Pietta changed the width of the Bolt & Notch.
Make sure your cylinder is tight at full battery, if it can rotate back & forth you might need to install a new Bolt.

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Uncocked, a little sideways play, cocked, tight as a drum. Guess I'm lucky. I have a stainless cylinder from another Pietta and it fits just as well.
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Re: Remington #10 caps loose on Pietta
« Reply #8 on: October 23, 2019, 09:43:15 PM »
   This isn't pointed at Rio or Antique S.M. "necessarily", just for general consumption .  .  . 

Lockup is the same no matter if the hammer is at rest or full cock.  At full cock, the hand is  in its most upward position against the ratchet, so the "tight" feel is a false indicator. That being the case, the "at rest" lockup will be what you have as soon as the trigger is pulled. Besides, where is the hammer when the charge goes off?  A well tuned S.A. will not have any hand contact at full cock. If there is an action stop installed, there should be basically be the same cylinder movement at full and at rest (which really is the real reason for installing an action stop in the first place, to protect parts and prevent throw-by).

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Re: Remington #10 caps loose on Pietta
« Reply #9 on: October 24, 2019, 03:28:39 AM »
Hey Mike,

Thanks for the explanation. I think this could be an issue.
I only mentioned because I purchased a used cylinder which has the narrow notches.
Being unable to lock up, it's been a paper weight ever since.
I suppose one could rework the bolt but I think I'll just hang on to it,
just in case I stumble across an old model in the future.

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Re: Remington #10 caps loose on Pietta
« Reply #10 on: October 24, 2019, 01:22:24 PM »
I don't know about Remingtons but Pietta Colts have had about five different hands over the years. I think Pietta changed the bolt width in 2000 when they went to CNC but I'm not sure about that.
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Re: Remington #10 caps loose on Pietta
« Reply #11 on: October 24, 2019, 02:34:35 PM »
Hey ASM!  I think you are right, it definitely can be a lockup problem!  Of course you are right, the easiest way would be to "adjust" the bolt .

Mike