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Chassepot Mle 1866
« on: April 24, 2018, 04:35:17 PM »


Projectiles for the Chasse were also a sort of step towards modern such. With a weight of 385 grains in 45 caliber..they had an easy 90grains of BP behind that..u do the math.
The older Dreyse got nowhere near in performance. Battle sights of the Chasse tho are a tad optimistic at 1800 meters i believe.. ->i
But see...i plan to ride with that...bare with me..

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Re: Chassepot mdle 1866
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Re: Chassepot Mle 1866
« Reply #3 on: April 26, 2018, 04:01:33 PM »
Greetings My Good Racing -

great aquisition and a fine project!

The Bolt Action Chassy's  aka "Needle Guns " were known to the mountain men over here, but the consensus at the time was that the firing pins would erode away rather quickly for their tastes, and thus the fellows interested in cutting edge technology
prior to brass cartridges tended to favor the Sharps Percussion Paper Cutter Breechloader.

With 30 grain pellets glued together, modern stainless firing pins, and high temp rubber O rings you should do well -
this will literally be a 45-90 !

with the right bullet and that awesome hexagonal rifling I believe you should see good groups out to 800-1000 yards,
which is what a good Sharps can do with a proper tang mounted peep sight.

If you mount the scope forward of the breech you should have little problems with gass blow-by.... FYI on my .54 sharps, even with  all the tweaks and mods, I got a burn line on my Fedora hat brim , and it blew my buddy's ball-cap right off his head, thus I have stuck with the tang-mount peep.

A pinch of 4-F BP in the percussion cap would be advisable for a 777 booster, but before you try a "smokeless primer kicker" I
recommend reviewing the doco from the old Target Shooters who used such "tiny duplex loads" . I will see what I can stir up on the topic.

If you can get them, you might instead consider "209 Shotshell" primers.  They are much hotter than regular percussion caps or rifle primers, and even tho they look quite large, the size is due to a "shroud" ...


I alos might recommend  making some sort of combustible glue, and consider coating the complete "cartridge" with some flammable water-resistant stuff ... perhaps alcohol based shellac?

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Re: Chassepot Mle 1866
« Reply #7 on: May 05, 2018, 04:48:07 AM »
....aaaaaaaaaaaaaand again,leave it to the Swedish post to F this up.
Saturday and the package is still "in transit" from a place approx 10km from where i live and have been...since thursday.

Well. Whatever.
Meanwhile i bought me another one.









These are at least half cheap at the moment. The GRS sporter/varmint. Point being that they are about as adjustable as a stock will ever be and then at a rate that is reasonable at least,from an economical POW.



...aaaaaaaaaand in turn... A Walther 8-32*56....
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Re: Chassepot Mle 1866
« Reply #9 on: May 11, 2018, 11:32:48 AM »
Racing,

Sorry to hear about the postal issues but the rifles do look great. At first look at the bolt I thought you had picked up a Lebel. I'm guessing that particular shape/design was popular enough with the French military to stick with it for the Lebel. It's a real unique and cool look didn't hang around afterwards (since the Berthier and MAS 36 both had bent bolt handles and altogether different designs)

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Re: Chassepot Mle 1866
« Reply #10 on: May 13, 2018, 01:52:08 PM »
Yeah,on that..dunno if i get to keep the handle though.

The new stock i have in mind coupled with the glass might put a halt to that.

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Re: Chassepot Mle 1866
« Reply #12 on: May 15, 2018, 06:54:23 PM »




This rifle made back in 1868 has sights marked to 1200 meters. Easy. You work the thing by lifting the "ladder" either to the left or right for 100m vs 200m..and then the ladder.





Of course adjustable and..numbered too.



Yep. Stiff as a door nail. Period.

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Re: Chassepot Mle 1866
« Reply #13 on: May 17, 2018, 06:08:05 AM »


The absolute tip of the stock needle was broken right. The length of the stocker is to be 73,5mm and..this one dialed in like a mill to short.
Gave that some thought,as far as what is readily available,cheap and will fit...and of course. TIG electrodes. 1.6mm worth,and the damn thing fits like a glove. I just took the MIG welder to the tip of the electrode and when done ground the weld blob to 3mm diameter on the bench grinder.

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Re: Chassepot Mle 1866
« Reply #14 on: May 18, 2018, 05:50:59 AM »


That rubber seal setup got me thinking. As much as i understand the physics and reasoning behind it the rifle i intend to mod into a medium distance gun,well..

So i took to turning a "gauger" for the hole drilled into the bolt that holds the stock "umbrella" and rubber seal.



Yep. Working on old school guns we need old school tools.. ;) Nah,on a more serious note it seems these guns were manufactured with fractional dimensions.

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