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Re: Ben waiting for this
« Reply #15 on: March 19, 2016, 06:24:21 PM »
I've seen you tube vids of guys loading loose powder and bumping the butt on the ground to get powder to settle in the flash channel leaving the air gap between bullet and powder. I don't do that. When I use loose powder I load it muzzle down. I refuse to use a filler in anything. The manual says not to have an airspace between powder and bullet but that's not fully possible with loose powder. The air gap will just be at the top of the chamber. My chamber will hold 110 grains of powder but even completely filled there is going to be some air gap. Even with paper cartridges there's going to be some gap. No way around it.
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Re: Ben waiting for this
« Reply #16 on: March 19, 2016, 06:49:36 PM »
Good score, Mike.    (T^.   I've been drooling over the Sharps rifles for years, but so far haven't gone for it.

But who's Ben?

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Re: Ben waiting for this
« Reply #17 on: March 19, 2016, 07:43:05 PM »
But who's Ben?

(Just messin' with ya)

Your hilarious Omnivore.   
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Re: Ben waiting for this
« Reply #18 on: March 19, 2016, 09:59:48 PM »
Branko  thanks for attaching the articles.

for a couple that asked, here is a paragraph from it about powder capacity.  Unfortunately it doesn't give the year of manufacture for the weapon. so not sure if it holds true to the ones  1 or more years older, so you will still need to confirm your powder volume.

The powder chamber of the .54 Pedersoli Sharps is really huge .It can accommodate 120 grains
of loose black powder. I believe we do not need this amount for target shooting. The chamber
is set to this size to accept the thick wall, brass cartridges, thus not being filled up completely
with BP. The brass cartridge has a capacity of 60 grains of 3fg powder, so if you plan to use
loose powder, or paper cartridge loading, this is the amount we suggest. Do not forget that you
must not leave an air bubble in the breech, so you will have to use filler (cornwheat) in this case,
to eliminate air from the breech.
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However my manual said 80 gr and nothing about a filler. So once again, I will need to take an actual measurement.  Hopefully I can do this tomorrow.

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Re: Ben waiting for this
« Reply #19 on: March 20, 2016, 12:13:54 AM »
Do not forget that you
must not leave an air bubble in the breech, so you will have to use filler (cornwheat) in this case,
to eliminate air from the breech.
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There is no way to eliminate all of it. The way the breech block is made prohibits that unless you load it from the muzzle.
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Re: Ben waiting for this
« Reply #20 on: March 20, 2016, 07:20:51 AM »
yep I know that.  But I doubt one could actually load that bullet from the muzzle without a 7/16 diameter steel ramrod and Johnnies BFH!
That's a lot of lead to ram home.
The brass cartridge helps eliminate that issue.

Later today I will try to load mine up with bulk powder and see the maximum.
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Re: Ben waiting for this
« Reply #21 on: March 20, 2016, 12:15:56 PM »
yep I know that.  But I doubt one could actually load that bullet from the muzzle without a 7/16 diameter steel ramrod and Johnnies BFH!
That's a lot of lead to ram home.



You'd have to use a PRB. I'd like to see somebody load one of my 557-490 ring tails from the muzzle even using a 7/16 rod and Johnnies BFH. ->i ->i ->i
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Re: Ben waiting for this
« Reply #22 on: March 20, 2016, 04:01:06 PM »
My plain Jane paper cutter business rifle.



A couple of my dip lubed paper cartridges.

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Re: Ben waiting for this
« Reply #23 on: March 20, 2016, 04:03:52 PM »
Looking good  (T^

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Re: Ben waiting for this
« Reply #24 on: March 20, 2016, 04:14:21 PM »
Looking good  (T^

Thanks. The table could use some polish. It really doesn't look that bad but the pics bring it out.  {_K
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Re: Ben waiting for this
« Reply #25 on: March 20, 2016, 06:10:00 PM »
mike your rifle makes me jealous. does anyone make one of those in 45-90 ?

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Re: Ben waiting for this
« Reply #26 on: March 20, 2016, 06:16:01 PM »
I believe 45-70,  45-90,  45-110, and 45-120.   At least they used too.   Not sure about the current Italian makers.

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Re: Ben waiting for this
« Reply #27 on: March 20, 2016, 06:27:49 PM »
Pedersoli makes all 45 calibers depending on model. Shiloh Sharps makes all 45 calibers. Not sure about C. Sharps, all I saw was .45 2 1/10(45-70)
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Re: Ben waiting for this
« Reply #28 on: March 20, 2016, 06:29:26 PM »
 Should be pretty simple to ream a 45-70 too any of the above I'd think?

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Re: Ben waiting for this
« Reply #29 on: March 20, 2016, 06:55:09 PM »
Should be pretty simple to ream a 45-70 too any of the above I'd think?

You're right.  I've seen some that claimed to be reworked to 45-120 that the gunsmith says will fire 45-70 all the way up through 45-120.   Don't know how well that would work though.