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Title: Handling your Remmy
Post by: Captainkirk on July 02, 2011, 01:53:49 PM
I find the brass trigger guard on my '58 tarnishes rather quickly despite frequent attacks with Flitz and a polishing rag, even though I wipe it down with a soft, clean cotton towel after handling. Any tips for preventing this?
Some threads on other forums have suggested carnauba (automotive paste) wax or even Pledge, but I've not tried either.
Title: Re: Handling your Remmy
Post by: Former Admin on July 02, 2011, 02:19:12 PM
havent found a real solution to this either, i handle my guns while watching movies, talking on the phone,etc. i usually just rub he brass with a littl 0000 steel wool! i guess one day the trigger guards will be so thin ill have to replace them! (?^
Title: Re: Handling your Remmy
Post by: Rock Island on July 02, 2011, 06:42:22 PM
The supermarket has all sorts of brass polishes that will clean the triggerguard, none of them expensive and they all work.  Let it tarnish, you think they shined it up in the field?  Shiny crap on a weapon will give your position away and get you killed.
Title: Re: Handling your Remmy
Post by: Captainkirk on July 02, 2011, 10:26:50 PM
The day I have to worry about giving away my position, Think I'll set the Remmy down and pick up the 7mmRM with the scope. Just sayin'..... ::)
Title: Re: Handling your Remmy
Post by: Smokey on July 08, 2011, 02:33:32 PM
0000 steel wool for me too.
Title: Re: Handling your Remmy
Post by: kwilfong on July 08, 2011, 02:51:38 PM
 Funny; I handle mine daily & my brass parts don't tarnish unless I shoot them. After shooting, I polish the brass parts with Mother's while reassembling.
Title: Re: Handling your Remmy
Post by: Former Admin on July 08, 2011, 02:55:14 PM
dang! i forgot about mothers, i used to use it on my bikes back in the day!
Title: Re: Handling your Remmy
Post by: chuckr1952 on July 10, 2011, 05:30:14 AM
    I like brass, I use a paste called metall, it really shines em up and lasts a long time.
Title: Re: Handling your Remmy
Post by: Former Admin on July 17, 2011, 05:10:00 AM
so do you guys set around and fondle your remmies while watching tv or talking on the phone?,  or am i the only pervert here? i practice pointing  mine all the time or spinning it or just handling it when im doin nothin! am i sick  or what!
Title: Re: Handling your Remmy
Post by: kwilfong on July 17, 2011, 06:04:05 AM
 I won't comment on the pervert thing but I handle mine daily :)
Title: Re: Handling your Remmy
Post by: chuckr1952 on July 17, 2011, 06:12:30 AM
    no, your not sick, lotta times I lay a gun by me when I watch tv, just somthin to do during commercials, I need to fix this old 58 that doesnt index properly, I have shot it in iys present condition but you have to rember to bump the cylender to make it line up right, its an old FIE brand and I dont think you'd ever find any parts for it.
Title: Re: Handling your Remmy
Post by: Rock Island on July 17, 2011, 08:44:56 AM
Nope, as a rule I leave the guns in their places unless it's time to clean, shoot, photo, or pack them.
Title: Re: Handling your Remmy
Post by: 51colt on July 17, 2011, 12:16:18 PM
I use Never Dull polish wading.
51
Title: Re: Handling your Remmy
Post by: chuckr1952 on July 17, 2011, 03:33:50 PM
     never dull is good!
Title: Re: Handling your Remmy
Post by: Captainkirk on July 17, 2011, 10:23:12 PM
Well, not as a rule, but if the wife's working, sometimes I'll watch me a little Josey Wales while polishing a pistola or two....just seems to fit.
Title: Re: Handling your Remmy
Post by: Former Admin on July 18, 2011, 12:47:19 AM
sounds like my wife asking , how many times you gonna watch that movie! sigh,i get up and put  pale rider in! (?^
Title: Re: Handling your Remmy
Post by: Mad Dog Stafford on July 22, 2011, 07:23:42 AM
Yep, I'm always messing around with my guns. Mostly the Remmy. I just have a rem oiled clothe in a plastic tub(with lid) around me. After touching any of my guns, I just wipe them down.
Heh! My wife will come in my den and say "Are watching that again?". We have 4 TVs here, so she can find a TV very easy to watch her shows.
Title: Re: Handling your Remmy
Post by: treadhead1952 on August 21, 2011, 08:41:15 PM
Yeah, I do handle my new Remington, but then I also do the same with my Uberti Colt Clone, my Ruger P 95 and the little CZ-82.  I have Snap Caps for the Ruger and Uberti which get loaded, unloaded, cycled through that action in the case of the P-95 and triggers get pulled and hammers will fall.  But this is in the interest of keeping the muscle memory alive in handling each of them as well as practicing various manuvers like clearing jams, reloading as quickly as possible and that sort of thing.  The more familiar you are with these things, the fewer surprises will come your way on the range and in real life.

I am thinking about cleaning out 6 caps, oiling the insides to kill the chemicals that make them go "BANG!", cleaning them out until I see bright metal and refilling them with some punched out leather discs to make mini snap caps for the Remington.  I don't know how well this would work or how long they would last, but it is an idea that would let me practice dropping the hammer on it.  Finding someone with a lathe so I can take a 6 pack of 9X19MM snap caps to them to turn them down a tad bit so that they would feed reliably in the CZ-82 is another idea that I have to enable more realistic "handling" of it as well.

There is a small plastic potato salad container with a lid that I keep an oiled old piece of Tee Shirt in to wipe down my handguns when I get done with all this busy work while watching shows or TV on the 'Puter.  So there you have it, my confession to being a gun handler like all the rest of ya'll.... (?^ ;)
Title: Re: Handling your Remmy
Post by: Captainkirk on August 21, 2011, 09:33:21 PM
Somebody, somewhere, once upon a time had suggested you can make "snap caps" for your BP revolvers from aquarium tubing cut just a bit longer than the end of the nipples. I haven't tried this, though. Sounds like it might work...
Title: Re: Handling your Remmy
Post by: chuckr1952 on August 22, 2011, 04:36:08 AM
                      What the heck happened to the plastic nipple caps any way, I looked a while back and couldnt find any.
Title: Re: Handling your Remmy
Post by: treadhead1952 on August 22, 2011, 06:46:45 PM
Thanks for the Aquarium Tubing Tip there Cap'n, just the thing I was looking for.  Now I can work out on the Remington just like the rest of my favorite handguns. ;)
Title: Re: Handling your Remmy
Post by: Captainkirk on August 22, 2011, 08:53:34 PM
You're welcome!
Nice thing about the tubing is, it's open-ended so you don't mash anything inside the nipple.
Title: Re: Handling your Remmy
Post by: Hawg on September 05, 2011, 06:33:39 PM
   its an old FIE brand and I dont think you'd ever find any parts for it.


FIE was an importer not a brand. It will have a manufacturers logo on it somewhere. Unfortunately it may be something like PR.
Title: Re: Handling your Remmy
Post by: Hawg on September 05, 2011, 06:36:00 PM
dang! i forgot about mothers, i used to use it on my bikes back in the day!

What kinda bike? Mine was a 66 FLH. Slab bottom shovel or shovel/pan or generator shovel. Whatever you wanna call it.

(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y269/rebel727/horsesandme/me1.jpg)
Title: Re: Handling your Remmy
Post by: Former Admin on September 05, 2011, 06:50:14 PM
we called them pan/shovels! ive had about 15 pans and a dozen or so shovels, half dozen evos and my first bike was a honda (?^ had my own bike shop fer 10 years and worked fer hd 4 years and a couple other shops fer about 10 years   used to be prez of a very very large family club, my chapter had 150 members and i opened 5 more chapters before joining the largest 1%er club in texas which i later became prez fer a couple of years now im just a retired old used to be fart ! (?^  i got just a little bikin history.........
Title: Re: Handling your Remmy
Post by: Hawg on September 05, 2011, 07:06:34 PM
Cool Beans. I had a 48 pan I was restoring but somebody needed it worster than I did and I had a 73 350 Sprint I finally gave away so I'd quit spending money on it.
Title: Re: Handling your Remmy
Post by: snake-eyes on September 11, 2011, 01:15:23 AM
dang! i forgot about mothers, i used to use it on my bikes back in the day!
ET,
     This will seem kind of  {:( but I use Brasso, mostly to clean up knives or about any other metals. Just from having used it seems
like it might be a bit to abrasive for shining brass.I may be wrong but I am not going to use it to find out I'm right.I do know
it works great on copper and pewter and even carbon & stainless steel.
snake-eyes
Title: Re: Handling your Remmy
Post by: Former Admin on September 11, 2011, 03:32:08 AM
i used a bunch of brasso back in the days of rotc and later in the army its good stuff and it seems to shine brass pretty good, never crossed my mind to try it on other metals!
Title: Re: Handling your Remmy
Post by: Indy4570 on December 06, 2011, 11:24:07 PM
I am a fan if flitz and nevr dull

here's a little somethin I used to ride back in the day, a rather rare 1945 WL, not a WLA or a WLC, but  war year civilian model, one of about 1500 made. I still miss that ole gal. It was my time machine

(http://i52.tinypic.com/6htgee.jpg)
Title: Re: Handling your Remmy
Post by: Former Admin on December 07, 2011, 04:37:11 AM
super sweet 45 there indy!  we used to put honda wheels and sprockets on the back to gear em up fer hiway!   love those old goodyear super eagles and the beehive tailight!  had a springer like that on one of my pans too, everybody would bring there 45s to me when they took the cam covers off, cause they couldnt figger out how to time 4 cams )L$  the pre war years aluminium used to buff up like chrome!   i bet ya wish ya had that one back! M__
Title: Re: Handling your Remmy
Post by: Indy4570 on December 07, 2011, 09:39:16 AM
yup yup, I wish I had never sold it. Them are Firestone replica tires by Coker tire. I like the goodyears too. ;) I had to fix a few problems when I got her but she was tiptop when she left me. I had an auction and put a $12k reserve on her and she went for $12,100.00.  :'(  I miss my ole servicars and the knuck and even the pan but that ole 45 was a thing of beauty! (T^
Title: Re: Handling your Remmy
Post by: OldFool on January 07, 2012, 09:05:14 PM
brasso is VERY abrasive.  If you don't mind handling your guns to polish brass, it works good.   Once the protective coating on brass (shellac I believe) was removed, the brass had to be brassoed daily if it was touched.
Title: Re: Handling your Remmy
Post by: Captainkirk on January 08, 2012, 10:18:00 AM
Unlike Brasso, Flitz leaves a protective coating that helps prevent tarnish & oxidation (if unhandled) for up to 6 months. Just sayin'.
Title: Re: Handling your Remmy
Post by: snake-eyes on January 12, 2012, 05:17:37 AM
I guess I'll ask what is and where do you get Flitz??? ($'
John
Title: Re: Handling your Remmy
Post by: OldFool on January 12, 2012, 05:35:39 AM
I guess I'll ask what is and where do you get Flitz??? ($'
John

One of those new fangled hi-tech polishes that polishes everything you have in the house  ->i

Actually, it's pretty good, you can get it at most auto stores, Advance auto, O'brians, Pep Boys, etc.
Title: Re: Handling your Remmy
Post by: Mad Dog Stafford on January 12, 2012, 05:51:01 AM
Wal-mart has it too.  ;)
Title: Re: Handling your Remmy
Post by: Pustic on January 12, 2012, 09:45:51 PM
I handle my Remingtons with white gloves (http://www.stjudeshop.com/resources/StJudeShop/images/products/processed/14996.zoom.a.jpg), and treat them like an unwanted red headed stepchild. (http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa138/kjk76_91/gingerale1.jpg)(http://images.radcity.net/6610/2818910.jpg)

 )L$ )L$ (?^ (?^ (?^ ->i
Title: Re: Handling your Remmy
Post by: Gunslinger9378 on April 16, 2012, 07:15:30 PM
     SO GLAD I am not the only person who plays with their pistol while watching a movie. (Western only of course.  I like to make certain I am on hand in case Sam Elliot, Tom Selleck, or John Wayne can't quite handle things!   LOL! Johnnie Roper.
Alias Gunslinger9378.
Title: Re: Handling your Remmy
Post by: Mad Dog Stafford on April 16, 2012, 07:17:09 PM
 (?^   ;)
Title: Re: Handling your Remmy
Post by: Gunslinger9378 on April 17, 2012, 01:01:53 PM
I won't comment on the pervert thing but I handle mine daily :)
  I must be a pervert too.  I have mine with me all the time. It is in a shoulder holster as I type this, I live in Arizona, and ANYONE can carry concealed without a permit. (Since about 2008.)  The gun goes with me everywhere.  After dark if it is a warm night, and I take the dog for her late night walkies, I buckle on my homemade western gunbelt and don't even bother to hide it!  No-one says anything here anyway!  Watching movies I often have it in my hand. I think that if you carry a gun. & are PREPARED to use it if the situation arises, then the more familiar you are with it, the better.  Mine is loaded and capped all the time, so as you may gather, I consider myself pretty safe with a gun.  There are no bullet holes in my walls,and the last accidental discharge I had was in 1982.  I was showing a friend various self loading pistols I owned at that time.  One was one of those abortions that are double action on the first shot. The other two were a Colt Govt.Mod.45, and the third was a colt Govt. .380.  I had finished going through the particulars of all three, and  had commenced to reload them all, beginning wth the .380. The guy asked me another question, and I picked up the .380.aimed it at a picture on the wall, and fired. (Forgetting I had reloaded the thing!)  I went around telling every one in my club all about it.  I felt that I should tell everyone how stupid I had been.  I WAS sufficiently well disciplined, that I was always careful never to point a weapon in an unsafe direction.  The motto, "Never ever let your gun, pointed be at any one." Was pounded into my head from the very day I got my first air pistol at about age ten!  So I can honestly claim to be accident free for the last thirty years.  That hole in the wall, (And the picture!) was a very sobering moment for me. I beat myself up over it for months. Finally, my Law Enforcement Boss had enough of it, and told me how he and a friend had unloaded their pistols, and had been practicing their fast draw in the break room at the police station.  They finished, and reloaded their weapons, and "Gunsmoke" came on. My friend said to his companion, "I can beat him, and by Golley he did!  And it cost him a new TV for the Police Station!  So once I knew that even my friend could make a mistake like that, I felt a little better about myself!  BUT, I have been REALLY careful ever since!  All black powder guns are single action, so one has to make that deliberate cocking motion before the thing becomes, "Live!"  Each time I take it out of the holster, or handle it in any way, I check to see the hammer is secure in the safety notch!  (I load all six chambers!) Many years ago, some guy fussed at Texas Ranger Captain Bill McDonald, about how the Colt S.A. Army should not be called a six shooter at all, because it was not safe to carry it with a round under the hammer.  Captain McDonald glared at the man, and said, "Mister, iffen you caint finish the job in five shots, it's time to git the Hell outa there!"  Bil McDonald was a man of few word, but most of those words were as strong as cowcamp  coffee!  Law enforcement was so much simpler in those days!

                                            Johnnie Roper  alias  Gunslinger9378.
Title: Re: Handling your Remmy
Post by: Gunslinger9378 on May 14, 2012, 03:46:03 PM
Dear Friends,
       I don't think I'm perverted.  However I do play with my guns all the time, especially when watching Western Movies!  I have to be certain that Tom Selleck is on the ball, and to be able to Warn Sam Elliot when the fecal matter is about to hit the rotating air circulation device!  I remembered that my wife uses pledge, and so after reading what our member had said about pledge shining up brass, I went to the kitchen, sprayed a little on a piece of paper towel, and tried to see if it would make Clementina's trigger guard shiny!  Didn't do one lick of good!
       I too am not all that keen on bright objects giving my presence away.  Capt.Kirk is fortunate to HAVE a long range scope sighted rifle to use for this purpose.  However when two Percussion revolvers are ALL that one has, then one has to cut one's cloth accordingly.   In the event of a wholesale breakdown of Law & Oder in this country, I would ally myself with some people who had horses.  I don't walk too well, but I am a very experienced horseman.  With a set of saddlebags, and a bedroll, I could be pretty independent, and help provide security for others in the party.  I would hope that someone in the party would have a rifle of some type, but out to 35 yards, I could make some one hunt cover seriously!  A few years ago there was a book about some guy who manages to survive an epidemic of major proportions.  I got impatient with the guy, for it never crossed his mind to arm himself except with a bow and arrow.  And he couldn't shoot for toffee with it!  He holed up in some house in the environs of L.A. of all places. The book was entitled, "Earth Abides." and I think the author was a guy named Stewart.  A friend of mine read the book, and said it was a crock of something very unpleasant!  He said the guy should have headed for the hills, and armed himself with a rifle & pistol. and a horse for transportation!  Sounds good to me!  There used to be a guy who wrote in "Guns & Ammo."  he was a survivalist Guru, and he made one point that I felt was worth remembering.  He said, "You will never have time to "Go Hunting!"  You'll be too busy scratching a living. He
advocated being armed as one went about one's work, and to always have either a rifle or a shotgun hanging on the hames of the mule while you worked in the fields.  He said, "You will often see a deer of some other eatable animal while you're plowing the fields, and wont have time to go to the house, (Or cave?) for a weapon."  This struck me as eminently sensible!
So should civilization breakdown, arm yourself, find a horse by fair means or foul, and head for the Hills!  A saddle and blanket would be an excellent idea as well, and a bridle with a curb bit, and a set of hobbles for when you camp at night, and don't want to have to trek five miles on foot to catch, "Champion The Wonder Horse!"  Some food storage would be a good idea, but don't collect cans!  They will weigh too much. Freeze Dried foods would be best, and see if you can rotate them before the Crunch, as I am not sure what their, "Cupboard Life," is!  Sadly the guy who wrote so learnedly on this subject, died soon after I got interested in what he was writing about.  You'd have to go back to old issues, REALLY old issues, about 1960's, to find articles by him.  The way our politicians are going, it may not be too long before the 2nd. American Revolution.  I am not going to advise anyone who to vote for, but I will say who NOT to vote for! My wife, who has not much interest in politics, was looking at an article on-line.  She came to me and said, "For your sake I hope that Obama does not get a second term, because I think he want to take EVERYONE'S guns away from them!"
                  Amen to that Brethren!   It's time for a CHANGE!  Johnnie Roper, Alias: Gunslinger9378.




Title: Re: Handling your Remmy
Post by: BOOMSTICK BRUCE on May 18, 2012, 10:25:55 PM
I use tooth paste and an old tooth brush... Yall know i like em shiney in fact now that i got them ivory grips fittin pretty well im plating the cylinder on the remmy in gold.... Ill post pics when shes done...
Title: Re: Handling your Remmy
Post by: Mad Dog Stafford on May 19, 2012, 06:12:12 AM
WOW! That's going to look great Bruce!  {?|
I'll have to try that tooth paste.
Title: Re: Handling your Remmy
Post by: Smokin_Gun on June 06, 2012, 10:02:38 PM
Dang am I the only Hombre that likes his Brass Patina'd not polished jus' cleaned? I had to ask  ;) {?( &j(
Title: Re: Handling your Remmy
Post by: Hawg on June 07, 2012, 06:47:20 AM
Dang am I the only Hombre that likes his Brass Patina'd not polished jus' cleaned? I had to ask  ;) {?( &j(

Nope, I don't care much for brass anyway but what I do have I like dull and mellow. Now if I could just figure out how to mwllow the finish on my Golden Boy I'd be happy.

(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y269/rebel727/36%20Remington/IMG_0237.jpg)

BTW that's a .380 conical. They won't fit like that on my Piettas.
Title: Re: Handling your Remmy
Post by: alchemist on June 07, 2012, 06:28:20 PM
I'm with smokin and hawg on this one. Every once in awhile when I get some obsessive compulsive thoughts and the 0000 steel wool comes out.   
Title: Re: Handling your Remmy
Post by: G Dog on June 07, 2012, 07:48:08 PM
I'm with smokin and hawg on this one. Every once in awhile when I get some obsessive compulsive thoughts and the 0000 steel wool comes out.   

Know the feelin'. I've gone OCD on a '61 colt Pietta recently.  Hits me every now and again.
Title: Re: Handling your Remmy
Post by: Captainkirk on June 07, 2012, 08:51:00 PM
I dunno...when I see brass I think "Flitz" and before ya know it...... _l
Title: Re: Handling your Remmy
Post by: Dellbert on June 07, 2012, 09:18:36 PM
Dang am I the only Hombre that likes his Brass Patina'd not polished jus' cleaned? I had to ask  ;) {?( &j(

Nope. I like it that Patina'd look to SG.  ;)

CK If you want to keep your brass looking good buy a can of "Wright's Silver Cream" and use it. Works real good and don't harm the brass or eat away the brass like the Brasso and steel Wool. I used it one time on my Colt 51 brass frame and it was so pertty you could see yourself in it.  :)

                                                                                                                        Dell  (^h
Title: Re: Handling your Remmy
Post by: alchemist on June 08, 2012, 04:59:33 AM
"....don't harm the brass or eat away the brass like ... steel Wool." How many years would it take to do that every few hours every day for me to have whittled away the trigger guard to nothing.....  (^h     {_K   I feel my OCD kicking in  {:( 
Title: Re: Handling your Remmy
Post by: Dellbert on June 10, 2012, 04:30:16 PM
"....don't harm the brass or eat away the brass like ... steel Wool." How many years would it take to do that every few hours every day for me to have whittled away the trigger guard to nothing.....  (^h     {_K   I feel my OCD kicking in  {:(

alchemist what in the world are you doing to that pistol?  ???
Title: Re: Handling your Remmy
Post by: alchemist on June 10, 2012, 05:58:56 PM
I was jokin Dell  M__
Title: Re: Handling your Remmy
Post by: Captainkirk on June 10, 2012, 09:41:30 PM
I'm probably the one with the OCD. I like a nice, mellow, amber color to my brassers, but it only lasts a short while before it starts to look unkempt or neglected. It's at that point where the OCD kicks in and out comes the Flitz.
Besides, I console myself with the thought that a new Reb soldier would not have been issued a gun with a mellow amber patina, but rather, a brand new revolver packed in grease. (?^
Title: Re: Handling your Remmy
Post by: AZshooter on May 27, 2013, 07:18:08 PM
A little buffing with white rouge on a felt Dremel Buffing Wheel, & the trigger-guard shines like gold.
Title: Re: Handling your Remmy
Post by: Hawg on May 28, 2013, 03:29:57 AM
I console myself with the thought that a new Reb soldier would not have been issued a gun with a mellow amber patina, but rather, a brand new revolver packed in grease. (?^

So you're gonna shine it up and keep it packed in grease so you can be a new reb soldier every time you use it? Never mind the fact that no reb soldier ever used a brass 58. (?^
Title: Re: Handling your Remmy
Post by: BartSr on May 28, 2013, 07:16:58 PM
BTW that's a .380 conical. They won't fit like that on my Piettas.

All right, where'd you get those .380 conicals?  :'(
If there's a mold, where also?
Thanks!
Paul
Title: Re: Handling your Remmy
Post by: BGRooster1 on May 28, 2013, 10:10:41 PM
Just read through this thread for the first time and I was thinking the same thing. Where did you get those .380 conicals? Inquiring minds need to know.
Title: Re: Handling your Remmy
Post by: BartSr on May 29, 2013, 02:11:41 PM
I always NEED something to handle while watching the evening "NEWS".  (?L
It gives a small outlet to "s h o o t   the   TV"  :9)

BartSr