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General Black Powder Discussions => Projectiles => Topic started by: Retreever on July 11, 2019, 02:59:54 AM

Title: Coated Bullets ( Missouri Bullet Company)
Post by: Retreever on July 11, 2019, 02:59:54 AM
Has anybody used 'coated' bullets like these https://www.grafs.com/retail/catalog/product/productId/28498 (https://www.grafs.com/retail/catalog/product/productId/28498) when reloading 45 Colt cartridges to shoot with your conversion cylinder?

The indoor range I use does not allow bare lead bullets, I have been shooting copper plated 250gn bullets but I have seen postings where people say this could be damaging my Uberti Remmy. I'm figuring these 'coated' bullets might be ok with the folks at my indoor range.

Any and all feedback would be appreciated.

Thanks, Retreever
Title: Re: Coated Bullets ( Missouri Bullet Company)
Post by: necessaryevil on July 11, 2019, 07:00:02 AM
I use these all the time in 9mm and .45acp but different makes, ARES made in Slovakia and H+N made in Germany. They use the same powder charge as a lead bullet with a lube ring.

So if you have a safe i.e LOW PRESSURE load for lead bullets for your Remington these are perfectly safe and won't do any damage at all.

Best thing is they leave the gun very clean and produce less smoke like FMJ bullets do. Hope this helps ?
Title: Re: Coated Bullets ( Missouri Bullet Company)
Post by: BOOMSTICK BRUCE on July 11, 2019, 10:49:27 AM
i shot barrys plated bullets through my 58 until i found out i wasnt allowed to use plated bullets for SASS. plated is not the same as jacketed and will not hurt the barrels. but i have also used the coated bullets, the only thing i dont like about them is they are so slick, i drop them when im reloading ammo... i currently use Missouri's #4 bullets...
Title: Re: Coated Bullets ( Missouri Bullet Company)
Post by: SourMashII on July 11, 2019, 01:54:00 PM
 :-* {L*
they are like 25 miles north of me, and I'm supposed to work that territory.. guess we're taking a drive to Mexico.
Title: Re: Coated Bullets ( Missouri Bullet Company)
Post by: BeoBill on July 14, 2019, 04:51:05 PM
I've used their coated bullets in 9x18 Makarov. They shoot well and leave no residue behind.
Title: Re: Coated Bullets ( Missouri Bullet Company)
Post by: Mad Dog Stafford on July 15, 2019, 10:06:33 AM
Hi Retreever, I have bought 4 or 5 boxes of just the leaded ones and I painted them myself.

That way, I could have any color that I wanted.
Title: Re: Coated Bullets ( Missouri Bullet Company)
Post by: mazo kid on July 15, 2019, 10:38:42 AM
Sam, the coated bullets are not just painted. They use a baked on polymer-type coating. I have coated some myself. Shake the bullets up in a plastic container with a little of the powder, then bake at about 400 degrees for 20 minutes or so. This melts the powder so it forms to the bullet surface.
Title: Re: Coated Bullets ( Missouri Bullet Company)
Post by: Captainkirk on July 15, 2019, 10:40:23 AM
Yes, they are powder coated, not just painted.
Title: Re: Coated Bullets ( Missouri Bullet Company)
Post by: Mad Dog Stafford on July 15, 2019, 11:16:40 AM
I know about the powder coated but, I was just saying that I saved money on just spray painting them and then baked them.

I'm a cheap boy here. WINK!
Title: Re: Coated Bullets ( Missouri Bullet Company)
Post by: Retreever on July 15, 2019, 04:01:16 PM
I know about the powder coated but, I was just saying that I saved money on just spray painting them and then baked them.

I'm a cheap boy here. WINK!


 )L$
Title: Re: Coated Bullets ( Missouri Bullet Company)
Post by: Retreever on July 16, 2019, 07:58:49 AM
I believe I have found a Canadian source for coated bullets https://xmetaltargets.com/product/45-bullets-200-gr-rnfp-hi-tek/ (https://xmetaltargets.com/product/45-bullets-200-gr-rnfp-hi-tek/).

My question to the forum is do you think they are suitable for reloading .45 Colt cartridges?

Thanks, Retreever
Title: Re: Coated Bullets ( Missouri Bullet Company)
Post by: Miguel Loco on July 16, 2019, 09:29:51 AM
My question to the forum is do you think they are suitable for reloading .45 Colt cartridges?

Thanks, Retreever

I sure hope so because I use some. :)
Title: Re: Coated Bullets ( Missouri Bullet Company)
Post by: Retreever on July 16, 2019, 04:20:20 PM
My question to the forum is do you think they are suitable for reloading .45 Colt cartridges?

Thanks, Retreever

I sure hope so because I use some. :)

Miguel, do you mean you use this product specifically or one like it.

Regards Roger
Title: Re: Coated Bullets ( Missouri Bullet Company)
Post by: necessaryevil on July 17, 2019, 04:44:15 AM
Those actual bullets will be perfect. According to my 49th edition Lyman loading manual, here are some loads as suggested by Lyman.

200gr No2 alloy bullet

Starting load (minimum) Trail boss powder 5.8 grains gives 873fps and a chamber pressure of 10,600 C.U.P.

Maximum load 6.5gr, 934fps 13,000 C.U.P

CLAYS powder, starting 5.6gr, 837fps 8,400 C.U.P.................Perfect for a Remington, very low pressure.

Maximum 6.3gr 985fps and 12,200 C.U.P

UNIQUE Starting load 8.6gr, 918fps and 8,700 C.U.P..............................THAT'S the one I would go for.

Maximum load 9.6gr, 1083fps and 12,800 C.U.P 

Don't worry about the OAL, seat them deep as you need to fit your cylinder.

So get them bought fella.
Title: Re: Coated Bullets ( Missouri Bullet Company)
Post by: Miguel Loco on July 17, 2019, 07:54:29 AM
My question to the forum is do you think they are suitable for reloading .45 Colt cartridges?

Thanks, Retreever

I sure hope so because I use some. :)

Miguel, do you mean you use this product specifically or one like it.

Regards Roger

Similar products from various sources.
Title: Re: Coated Bullets ( Missouri Bullet Company)
Post by: mazo kid on July 18, 2019, 03:55:30 PM
I bought 4 different colored powders from a seller on the CastBoolits forum (Smoke). The powders should be available elsewhere on line; also, Harbor Freight sells some. That way you can powder-coat bullets that you either cast or buy, in different weights and diameters to suit your needs.
Title: Re: Coated Bullets ( Missouri Bullet Company)
Post by: Retreever on July 19, 2019, 05:49:30 PM
Those actual bullets will be perfect. According to my 49th edition Lyman loading manual, here are some loads as suggested by Lyman.

200gr No2 alloy bullet

Starting load (minimum) Trail boss powder 5.8 grains gives 873fps and a chamber pressure of 10,600 C.U.P.

Maximum load 6.5gr, 934fps 13,000 C.U.P

CLAYS powder, starting 5.6gr, 837fps 8,400 C.U.P.................Perfect for a Remington, very low pressure.

Maximum 6.3gr 985fps and 12,200 C.U.P

UNIQUE Starting load 8.6gr, 918fps and 8,700 C.U.P..............................THAT'S the one I would go for.

Maximum load 9.6gr, 1083fps and 12,800 C.U.P 

Don't worry about the OAL, seat them deep as you need to fit your cylinder.

So get them bought fella.


Thanks much appreciated

Retreever
Title: Re: Coated Bullets ( Missouri Bullet Company)
Post by: Retreever on August 15, 2019, 11:52:37 AM
Those actual bullets will be perfect. According to my 49th edition Lyman loading manual, here are some loads as suggested by Lyman.

200gr No2 alloy bullet

Starting load (minimum) Trail boss powder 5.8 grains gives 873fps and a chamber pressure of 10,600 C.U.P.

Maximum load 6.5gr, 934fps 13,000 C.U.P

CLAYS powder, starting 5.6gr, 837fps 8,400 C.U.P.................Perfect for a Remington, very low pressure.

Maximum 6.3gr 985fps and 12,200 C.U.P

UNIQUE Starting load 8.6gr, 918fps and 8,700 C.U.P..............................THAT'S the one I would go for.

Maximum load 9.6gr, 1083fps and 12,800 C.U.P 

Don't worry about the OAL, seat them deep as you need to fit your cylinder.

So get them bought fella.

Update: Between selling the old place and moving to the new place (last Friday) things have been a little hectic but I ordered the .45 coated bullets yesterday - travelling by ground so I expect I won't see them till next week.

Roger
Title: Re: Coated Bullets ( Missouri Bullet Company)
Post by: Pustic on August 15, 2019, 01:45:30 PM
I don't and won't use any projectiles like that. But it would be neat if they came out with two tone projectiles.  :9)
Title: Re: Coated Bullets ( Missouri Bullet Company)
Post by: necessaryevil on August 16, 2019, 03:13:54 AM
I don't and won't use any projectiles like that. But it would be neat if they came out with two tone projectiles.  :9)

Why won't you use them ?
Title: Re: Coated Bullets ( Missouri Bullet Company)
Post by: Pustic on August 16, 2019, 02:14:16 PM
I don't and won't use any projectiles like that. But it would be neat if they came out with two tone projectiles.  :9)

Why won't you use them ?
They look retarded, and they're not natural.
Title: Re: Coated Bullets ( Missouri Bullet Company)
Post by: Retreever on August 22, 2019, 12:14:06 PM
I don't and won't use any projectiles like that. But it would be neat if they came out with two tone projectiles.  :9)

Why won't you use them ?
They look retarded, and they're not natural.

 )L$