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m/1775
« on: June 11, 2018, 05:33:50 AM »


So. Time came for me to pick up a flintlock and what better than an old service rifle in the form of an approx 3/4" (20mm) model 1775.
Swedish armed forces.



Due to a few pts missing i actually got two locks with the gun. Still need to fab a few small pts though.



The stock nose band is missing,but again..brass sheet is cheap after all and i DO now how to work a hammer and anvil.



Yep. The genuine article.



Think about it. This is from an era approx of the US revolution,and the gun is still ok to fire need be. Impressive to say the least.



The 1775 is said to be the most beautiful of them all. No argument there.
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« Reply #1 on: June 11, 2018, 12:18:50 PM »
Looks like a worthy project.  Interesting safety catch on the back of the lock plate.  I'm looking forward to a range report.  20 mm is a big chunk o' lead.
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« Reply #2 on: June 11, 2018, 01:57:18 PM »
Looks like a worthy project.  Interesting safety catch on the back of the lock plate.  I'm looking forward to a range report.  20 mm is a big chunk o' lead.
That kind of safety catch idea is later transferred to 19th century single shot pistols, notwithstanding there's also a half cock position on those. The smart thing being that the pistol can be capped and the hammer lowered far enough so the cap can't fall off.

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« Reply #3 on: June 11, 2018, 02:38:09 PM »
The issue of safeties on flintlocks and cap locks is an interesting one.  Since I often hunt from a tree stand, and since my cap lock has a fly, there is the issue of the hammer being pulled back, such as from a branch as it's being hoisted up on a rope, such that the hammer is brought back past the fly.  If it were past the fly but not to full cock, it could fire if released.  My solution is to remove the cap before hoisting.  One could credibly assert that the tumbler should be timed such that that cannot happen.  But it can happen in my rifle.

Still, a single trigger military musket would not have a fly, would it?
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« Reply #4 on: June 11, 2018, 04:42:31 PM »
@ Omni.
In swedish we call that kind of safety a "varhake". These were part of the lock system over here from rather early in history.

Hm.
Approx 250yrs old might be. Ambition is clear..to shoot the piece again.



Cleaning it up several cracks became evident. Like this one on the hammer. To not F around with the original materials to much i try and use an acetylene/oxygen torch where i can.
Just straighten the pieces to the best of my ability and then heat to make them become one again.



Cracks..funny part is that they show in the least suspect places. Like here at the rear of the tailscrew. Peculiar but..no matter,welder time.

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« Reply #5 on: June 11, 2018, 04:50:43 PM »
doglocks are so cool.......that's a very late example
i'll be keeping up w/this thread as rocklocks are my idea of a pure art form
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« Reply #6 on: June 11, 2018, 04:53:06 PM »
The issue of safeties on flintlocks and cap locks is an interesting one.  Since I often hunt from a tree stand, and since my cap lock has a fly, there is the issue of the hammer being pulled back, such as from a branch as it's being hoisted up on a rope, such that the hammer is brought back past the fly.  If it were past the fly but not to full cock, it could fire if released.  My solution is to remove the cap before hoisting.  One could credibly assert that the tumbler should be timed such that that cannot happen.  But it can happen in my rifle.

Still, a single trigger military musket would not have a fly, would it?

that rifle won't even have a half cock notch.........thats what the "dog" does
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« Reply #7 on: June 12, 2018, 12:19:12 AM »
doglocks are so cool.......that's a very late example
i'll be keeping up w/this thread as rocklocks are my idea of a pure art form
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« Reply #8 on: June 13, 2018, 04:47:14 AM »


Ah. The barrel bands. Sry to say some Mr Handyman had been at it before me. Using more common tools...like a drift..
Me i just used a broken off file and a jewelers hammer for WAY better results.



Tailscrew end of things got straightened out too.



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« Reply #9 on: June 17, 2018, 10:12:22 PM »
looking great so far !
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« Reply #10 on: June 18, 2018, 01:15:37 PM »
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« Reply #11 on: June 18, 2018, 01:46:02 PM »
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Trying to figure out what woods the stock is made of,it is friggin rock maple hard ...
I'd guess some old chunk of birch, as it's a bit blurry, and statistically that would fit.

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« Reply #12 on: June 18, 2018, 04:21:12 PM »
Some Birch woods are pretty hard so that could be it.   If it's as hard as you say it's more likely Ash.   There are several species of Birch used for lumber and are of different hardness.  Ash is usually one of hardest woods of non-exotic species.   You can rule out Alder since it is very soft comparatively speaking.   

This is a good online wood reference,   http://www.wood-database.com/wood-finder/?fwp_name=B&fwp_paged=3   see if you can match it up to one these examples.

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« Reply #13 on: June 20, 2018, 10:23:54 PM »
<<< wondering if possibly sycamore from what little of the grain I can see.....but that would be darker wouldn't it?
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« Reply #14 on: June 21, 2018, 10:21:00 AM »
It surely is from a tree that grows over here, so sycamore is out. We have ash but not very frequent. Historically 99 % of all old guns over here had birch stocks.