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Offline DD4lifeusmc

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Re: M48
« Reply #15 on: December 27, 2014, 08:09:12 AM »

What Quigley movie?

I know everybody has seen Quigley Down Under at least a half dozen times. M__
I've never seen it.
apparently you been lost in the outback for about  14 yrs )L$
Good movie   timed in the old west around 1870  in Austrailia Lots of BP
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Re: M48
« Reply #16 on: December 27, 2014, 08:29:42 AM »
If you haven't seen it you need to.
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Re: M48
« Reply #17 on: December 27, 2014, 08:31:16 AM »
I got a Pedersoli sharps  couple years ago. But the older version.  Mines the 54 cal  bulk, paper or brass cartridge.
Only shot it a couple time.  Need to go use my neighbors range  for longer distances.

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Re: M48
« Reply #18 on: December 27, 2014, 09:03:23 AM »
I've got a 54 paper cutter with a 29 inch octagonal barrel but that's nowhere near the same league as the Shiloh Quigley.
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« Reply #19 on: December 27, 2014, 11:08:56 AM »
Actually it really is quite comparable, if you are referring to your sharps.
 the cartridge version just made easier and quicker  loading, and easier for repetitive shooting without excess fouling in the chamber and breech.
My barrel mounted rear ladder sight is graduated to 800 yd.  the Tang to 1100.
But heck I can't see no where's near that far So for paper punching at my neighbors range I use his 100 and 200yd range.

However I would presume the Quigley Buffalo sharps would be slightly more accurate, based on flatter trajectory than the older versions.
His was a 45-110 (IIRC)  the smaller slug was shorter in length allowing more powder in the case plus the chamber may have been lengthened.  With the lighter slug it would conceivably have more velocity and the flatter trajectory.
his 45  was roughly 410 gr. to 450  again IIRC.

My 54  has a 535 gr slug  and bulk  loaded 80 gr. so not as flat.
But in Quigley he sent a poster to Marston  claiming 900yd.  so if both his version and the older version were both sighted in for that. The impact force would be pretty close
If any body has any reasonably correct chronograph data for both we can figure an approximate impact force for both.
but lets presume approx  1200ft ps  for both.

1200 x 1200 / 7000 / 64.32 x 410     or 535

1311 ft lb           or 1711 ft  lb     at the muzzle   do even at 100yd  still going to be close
using the story below and a constant of  688 fps
431 ft lb           or    562 ft lb


interesting link  http://powderburns.tripod.com/sharps.html
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Re: M48
« Reply #20 on: December 27, 2014, 11:25:15 AM »
I use a 490 grain ringtail with 80 grains but I was actually talking about the rifles themselves. The Quigley is a work of art while mine is just a plain old Sharp's.
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« Reply #21 on: December 27, 2014, 11:35:29 AM »
ohhh  aesthetics    checkering and all that.
Mines plain wood also but with a patchbox,
But still a nice looking rifle.
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« Reply #22 on: December 27, 2014, 12:07:52 PM »
No patch box on mine or double set triggers. It doesn't even have a barrel mounted ladder sight. It came with the tang drilled and tapped but no vernier sight. I have added one since this pic was taken. I need new pics.



I just realized we have completely hijacked Sam's thread. Sorry Sam.
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« Reply #23 on: December 27, 2014, 12:26:29 PM »
If you haven't seen it you need to.
Maybe when it comes out on VHS I'll see it.
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« Reply #24 on: December 27, 2014, 01:14:34 PM »
If you haven't seen it you need to.
Maybe when it comes out on VHS I'll see it.
presume you mean the movie.    been out on 8mm for a longtime.      but also vhs dvd and I think blue ray too!
Bunch of sites have it.   Wally world  $9.98
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« Reply #25 on: December 27, 2014, 01:17:17 PM »
If you haven't seen it you need to.
Maybe when it comes out on VHS I'll see it.
presume you mean the movie.    been out on 8mm for a longtime.      but also vhs dvd and I think blue ray too!
Bunch of sites have it.   Wally world  $9.98

It's a movie?
 ???  (^h (^h
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Re: M48
« Reply #26 on: December 27, 2014, 01:58:29 PM »
Here's mine a Pedersoli Silhouette I've since replaced the globe front sight with the original sole blade which I really like. I do have a tang sight also.

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Re: M48
« Reply #27 on: December 28, 2014, 06:57:12 AM »
Hijack away Guys...it doesn't bother me.  ;)

I have Quigley on DVD.
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« Reply #28 on: December 28, 2014, 11:24:10 AM »
The rifle used in Quigley belonged to Tom Selleck.  There is a long range rifle shooting competition called "The Quigley Match" held every year in Montana. Tom Selleck has a standing invitation to attend, and one year he provided the Grand Prize: The rifle he used in Quigley Down Under.

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« Reply #29 on: December 28, 2014, 12:14:55 PM »
The rifle used in Quigley belonged to Tom Selleck.  There is a long range rifle shooting competition called "The Quigley Match" held every year in Montana. Tom Selleck has a standing invitation to attend, and one year he provided the Grand Prize: The rifle he used in Quigley Down Under.

The movie rifle was made by Shiloh Sharp's and they sell a Quigley Sharp's as do some of the other makers.


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