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Re: Disable cap and ball revolvers
« Reply #15 on: March 18, 2013, 01:27:47 PM »
move... i did it, it worked out fine.. true freedom tastes way better then the same ole same ole...

Hi Bruce, I'm too old to move now. If I was younger I would certainly move out of New York State. If New York turns me into a felon, so be it.  &j(

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Re: Disable cap and ball revolvers
« Reply #16 on: March 19, 2013, 10:22:51 PM »
I live in Commiefornia, I'm an outlaw and I certainly don't give a damn about what Feinstein thinks I should do. She's an insensitive b**ch that uses the deaths of children to accomplish political goals and take advantage of women's instincts.

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Re: Disable cap and ball revolvers
« Reply #17 on: March 20, 2013, 06:54:40 PM »
Colorado just signed new tougher laws.
Magpull threatened to pull out of state if the laws had any adverse
affect on their business.
They confirmed they were pulling out of Colorado. Now just waiting to see if they
follow through with the threat.
This A.M. some Colorado high mucky mucky was killed.
No official reason yet, but they think it had something to do with the new gun laws.
They doubled the security on the governor.
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Re: Disable cap and ball revolvers
« Reply #18 on: March 20, 2013, 08:33:56 PM »
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Re: Disable cap and ball revolvers
« Reply #19 on: March 21, 2013, 04:46:24 AM »
They've verified that they're leaving....we'll see.

The "muckety muck" was the chief of prisons.  I don't this is related to gun control other than another excuse to infringe on the rest of us.
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Re: Disable cap and ball revolvers
« Reply #20 on: March 21, 2013, 01:21:45 PM »
They've verified that they're leaving....we'll see.

The "muckety muck" was the chief of prisons.  I don't this is related to gun control other than another excuse to infringe on the rest of us.
As of yet we don't know. He was new to Colorado. And no motive yet.
Could of been a disgruntled former prisoner or family member
Or it could of been a shooting of opportunity, as his home address was listed in the phone book and no security detail.
So it could of been related to the new gun control law.
Guess we will wait and see.
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Re: Disable cap and ball revolvers
« Reply #21 on: July 08, 2013, 12:18:12 PM »
Hi, I live in the Socialist Republic of New York State. If I have caps, powder, and projectiles for cap and ball revolvers, I must have those revolvers added to my NYS pistol permit.

Many years ago I gave my brother-in-law 4 brass framed .44 1860 Army and Navy revolvers. He used them for display and never had materials necessary to fire them. He recently passed away and I suspect that those revolvers will be returned to me. I don't want to have those revolvers added to my pistol permit.

I would also like to use them as hangers and want them to somewhat function mechanically, but modify them so that they can't be easily fired. I was thinking of filling the nipples with epoxy to disable the revolvers. Do you think that modification would satisfy the legal requirement for a disabled revolver?

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Hi, today my two 1860 and two 1861 Navy brass frame revolvers were returned to me. When I originally purchased them in the 1980s, markings meant little to me. I now see that these excellent condition brass framed revolvers are ASM manufacture. Three of the revolvers have serial numbers, date codes, and proof marks. However, one of the 1860 revolvers has only one marking, no serial number, date code, or manufacturer. It is a perfect clone of the other 1860, but with only an A with a small v inside on the brass frame.

Does anyone have an idea on why the one revolver is missing all the other normal markings and serial number? Could there be a safety issue firing this revolver?

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Re: Disable cap and ball revolvers
« Reply #22 on: July 08, 2013, 12:26:36 PM »
Hi Richard, maybe your 1860 was a kit gun at one time?  (^h
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Re: Disable cap and ball revolvers
« Reply #23 on: July 08, 2013, 12:37:13 PM »
Hi Richard, maybe your 1860 was a kit gun at one time?  (^h

Hi Sam, both 1860 were purchase at the same time from Cabelas, as were the 1861 Navy's'. They were delivered compete. It's hard to understand on how one would be a kit. I kind of write it off as "it's an Italian product". Before anyone gets juiced about that comment, know that I'm Italian. However, it may be more than just a mistake in manufacture so I asked the question.

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Re: Disable cap and ball revolvers
« Reply #24 on: July 08, 2013, 02:25:18 PM »
If it left Italy as a complete gun it would have had to have gone through the Gardonne proof house and would be so stamped. I can't see one slipping through that. It sounds like it was either a kit or somebody defarbed it.

As for Magpul they gave away 1,500 30 round magazines before the ban went into effect.  http://photos.denverpost.com/2013/06/29/photos-free-30-round-magazines-festival-colorado/
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Re: Disable cap and ball revolvers
« Reply #25 on: July 08, 2013, 02:39:48 PM »
If it left Italy as a complete gun it would have had to have gone through the Gardonne proof house and would be so stamped. I can't see one slipping through that. It sounds like it was either a kit or somebody defarbed it.

As for Magpul they gave away 1,500 30 round magazines before the ban went into effect.  http://photos.denverpost.com/2013/06/29/photos-free-30-round-magazines-festival-colorado/

Hi Hawg, there isn't any question that this revolver was not dfarbed. It came the same time another 1860 was ordered through Cabelas. The finish of he blued parts and stock is almost a identical twin of the revolver with serial number ordered and received at the same time. Unless someone can make a convincing case, I think the revolver without serial number just sneaked out the door.

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Re: Disable cap and ball revolvers
« Reply #26 on: July 08, 2013, 03:38:03 PM »
WHOOOooah there, unless you are in NYC, or the boroughs you shouldn't have to do anything. BP handguns are ok to ship and own in most of New York. Usually that info is here, but the state seems to be having issues with the site.

http://www.troopers.ny.gov/Search/goog_results.cfm?cx=007172846836151986659%3Adp7yru_jahe&cof=FORID%3A10&ie=UTF-8&q=antique&sa=GO&siteurl=www.troopers.ny.gov%2FFirearms%2F&ref=www.troopers.ny.gov%2FFAQs%2FFirearms%2FPermits.cfm&ss=1562j817456j7

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Re: Disable cap and ball revolvers
« Reply #27 on: July 08, 2013, 03:57:10 PM »
While its true that you can ship, own & posess B/P revolvers in NYS the OP states he has caps, powder & balls for them. I don't honestly know how that relates to the new laws but it used to be that they "magically became" a firearm if you had the components to fire them in NYS, not just the city.
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Re: Disable cap and ball revolvers
« Reply #28 on: July 08, 2013, 04:07:53 PM »
Hi, I live in the Socialist Republic of New York State. If I have caps, powder, and projectiles for cap and ball revolvers, I must have those revolvers added to my NYS pistol permit.

Many years ago I gave my brother-in-law 4 brass framed .44 1860 Army and Navy revolvers. He used them for display and never had materials necessary to fire them. He recently passed away and I suspect that those revolvers will be returned to me. I don't want to have those revolvers added to my pistol permit.

I would also like to use them as hangers and want them to somewhat function mechanically, but modify them so that they can't be easily fired. I was thinking of filling the nipples with epoxy to disable the revolvers. Do you think that modification would satisfy the legal requirement for a disabled revolver?

Regards,
Richard

I also live in NYS, that law has been in effect for over 30 years, long before the recent insanity.  My simple suggestion is pull the nipples, the thing is no longer shootable, no foul.  If you're worried about the state troopers come-a-knockin at your door over a BP pistol, then you're probably guilty of more heinous crimes.

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Re: Disable cap and ball revolvers
« Reply #29 on: July 08, 2013, 06:20:27 PM »
Hi Sam, since I got the revolvers back today and totally dissembled two of them, I must say that those ASM revolvers are the equal if not better than my Piettas. What's nice about the ASMs is that the barrel markings are hidden under the loading lever. Tomorrow I will clean all the parts and polish the brass. I will also see if Pietta parts are interchangeable with the ASMs.

Other than the brass frame, the ASMs are nicer than I remembered when I gave them to my brother-in-law. I have a theory about the ability of brass frame 1860s to use conversion cylinders, but will hold that argument until I do a little more research.

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