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First Reloads
« on: July 11, 2019, 04:12:28 PM »
Last week I fired my first reloads ( i.e. cartridges I reloaded myself) for my Kirst Konverter last Tuesday , 250g copper plated bullet with 5.5g of Titegroup powder - everything worked well except a lot of 'ricochets' of the rubber curtain backstop.

So this week I loaded (5) rounds each of the same bullet with 5.7g and 5.9g of Titegroup and fired those Tuesday night - no ricochets but at 5.9g the loading lever kept coming down. Plan is to load (10) rounds at 5.8g hoping to get just a little more hummph without the loading lever dropping.

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Re: First Reloads
« Reply #1 on: July 11, 2019, 04:39:13 PM »
It's nice being able to make your own ammunition, isn't it.

I haven't used Titegroup, but Hodgdon's 45 Colt data says 5 grains (gr) is the starting load for a 250 lead bullet and 5.5 for a jacketed, with 6.2 and 6.3 being the max loads, respectively.  Copper plated would likely react, pressure-wise, more like the lead bullet.

I wouldn't push the load based on the effects at the target.  Find the most accurate load instead, and if you need to alter your backstop to prevent ricochets then by all means do that.

For max barrel life I'd recommend naked lead, unless there's some reason you can't use it at your range.
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Re: First Reloads
« Reply #2 on: July 12, 2019, 05:33:56 AM »
It's nice being able to make your own ammunition, isn't it.

I haven't used Titegroup, but Hodgdon's 45 Colt data says 5 grains (gr) is the starting load for a 250 lead bullet and 5.5 for a jacketed, with 6.2 and 6.3 being the max loads, respectively.  Copper plated would likely react, pressure-wise, more like the lead bullet.

I wouldn't push the load based on the effects at the target.  Find the most accurate load instead, and if you need to alter your backstop to prevent ricochets then by all means do that.

For max barrel life I'd recommend naked lead, unless there's some reason you can't use it at your range.

Thanks Omnivore, for a 250gn lead bullet Titegroup has a Min: 5.0gn and Max 6.2gn.

The range I shoot at does not allow bare lead bullets. However in researching I came across 'coated' bullets from the likes of Missouri Bullet Company which I think would keep the range folks happy and allow me to avoid copper plated bullets.

Have you had any experience with coated bullets?

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Re: First Reloads
« Reply #3 on: July 12, 2019, 08:53:20 AM »
I second Omni's suggestion of not shooting plated bullets. Use lead where you can, and coated where you must.
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Re: First Reloads
« Reply #4 on: July 12, 2019, 03:59:58 PM »
It's easy enough to powder-coat lead bullets, or buy some already coated.

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Re: First Reloads
« Reply #5 on: July 12, 2019, 05:38:22 PM »
I haven't used coated bullets in .45 Colt but have shot tens of thousands in 9mm, .40, and .45ACP.  Have had zero issues with conventional barrels (one gain twist .40 barrel didn't like coated bullets and Titegroup).  Go easy on crimp unless there is a crimp groove, you can cut through coating with too much crimp.

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Re: First Reloads
« Reply #6 on: July 13, 2019, 06:45:56 AM »
It's easy enough to powder-coat lead bullets, or buy some already coated.

Mazo Kid, turns out I'm having a hard time finding anyone in Canada that sells these coated bullets do you have info on powder coating bullets? Is it something you can do yourself?

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Re: First Reloads
« Reply #7 on: July 13, 2019, 01:01:29 PM »
If you go to the Cast Boolits website they have an entire subcategory for it and extensive instructions.  There are also vendors on the site who sell the needed powders to do the coating.  GF

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Re: First Reloads
« Reply #8 on: July 14, 2019, 05:44:43 PM »
If you go to the Cast Boolits website they have an entire subcategory for it and extensive instructions.  There are also vendors on the site who sell the needed powders to do the coating.  GF

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Re: First Reloads
« Reply #9 on: July 15, 2019, 10:19:15 AM »
Hi Retreever, I have just spray painted lead bullets in any color that I like. Then I bake them in a little oven. They shoot great.
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