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Re: .45Colt (LC) Reloaded Too Long
« Reply #60 on: June 14, 2019, 01:49:23 PM »
I use the impact "puller" for most mistakes....powder, length, primer, etc. I have used the pliers method for the obstinate, hard to remove bullets. You can probably reload most of the impact-pulled bullets, but the pliers will mark the bullet (usually). For impact pulling, I use a short length of 4" X 4" pressure treated wood stood on end on my concrete basement floor. Once you get the technique down, you should be able to dislodge the bullet with one sharp snap of the wrist.

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Re: .45Colt (LC) Reloaded Too Long
« Reply #61 on: June 14, 2019, 01:58:25 PM »
I can't remember where or when I saw it but I read an article where for an experiment they carved chunks out of handgun bullets and then reloaded them. It made virtually no difference to accuracy.
 

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« Reply #62 on: July 15, 2019, 09:00:02 AM »
So as I previously indicated I have disassembled all the 'too long' cartridges and based on comments from a few others  I am looking at re-using the bullets to reload. In addition I have acquired another 100+ bullets of the same type at no cost.

Yesterday I experimented with loading this bullet in a .45 Colt cartridge making sure not to exceed the max. overall length of 1.60 inches.

The attached pics show the result, is there any reason why these reloads would NOT be ok to shoot?

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Re: .45Colt (LC) Reloaded Too Long
« Reply #63 on: July 15, 2019, 10:00:09 AM »
Hi Retreever, shoot them...nothing wrong with them.
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Re: .45Colt (LC) Reloaded Too Long
« Reply #64 on: July 15, 2019, 10:39:39 AM »
What has changed so that now they are NOT too long? Seating depth?
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Re: .45Colt (LC) Reloaded Too Long
« Reply #65 on: July 15, 2019, 11:03:59 AM »
What has changed so that now they are NOT too long? Seating depth?

Hey Cap'n, as recommended I disassembled the original rounds that started this thread.

This past weekend I reloaded a single cartridge as an example of what I would need to do to stay inside the max. OAL of 1.60" for .45 Colt cartridge. As you surmised the 'Seating Depth' has been changed tf accomplish this.

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Re: .45Colt (LC) Reloaded Too Long
« Reply #66 on: July 15, 2019, 11:07:16 AM »
In that case, then shoot away and enjoy!
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Re: .45Colt (LC) Reloaded Too Long
« Reply #67 on: July 15, 2019, 11:11:25 AM »
Side by Side comparison - the cartridge on the left is and example of the ones I 'inherited' and eventually disassembled. The cartridge on the right is the one I reloaded myself with the 'seating depth' adjusted to meet the OAL of 1.60".

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Re: .45Colt (LC) Reloaded Too Long
« Reply #68 on: July 15, 2019, 11:44:23 AM »
What is that gouge on the bullet from?  ???
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Re: .45Colt (LC) Reloaded Too Long
« Reply #69 on: July 15, 2019, 11:46:40 AM »
What is that gouge on the bullet from?  ???

Extraction from the original cartridge using the pliers method ->i

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Re: .45Colt (LC) Reloaded Too Long
« Reply #70 on: July 15, 2019, 12:51:24 PM »
Did you verify the powder charge and the type of powder?
How did you seat the bullet back in the case?
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Re: .45Colt (LC) Reloaded Too Long
« Reply #71 on: July 15, 2019, 01:23:21 PM »
Did you verify the powder charge and the type of powder?
How did you seat the bullet back in the case?
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Hey Hewy, yes the new cartridge is my own reload using my own powder (Titegroup) and recommended median load for the bullet size.

I have a single station Lee reloading press and Lee .45 lc die set which I used to seat the bullet.

Thanks for checking.

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Re: .45Colt (LC) Reloaded Too Long
« Reply #72 on: July 15, 2019, 07:21:34 PM »
Did you verify the powder charge and the type of powder?
How did you seat the bullet back in the case?
Hewy

Hey Hewy, yes the new cartridge is my own reload using my own powder (Titegroup) and recommended median load for the bullet size.

I have a single station Lee reloading press and Lee .45 lc die set which I used to seat the bullet.

Thanks for checking.

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Re: .45Colt (LC) Reloaded Too Long
« Reply #73 on: July 19, 2019, 02:06:59 PM »
You said the original cartridges were 2mm too long, yet it looks like the bullets are seated more deep than that now? This raises another question.....are the bullets crimped in place? If not, they might "walk" out of the cylinder and tie up the gun. Also, with the bullets seated that deep, pressures might be increased. What were those bullets to be fired in? Maybe a rifle? That would likely make sense as the nose of the bullet would fit into the bore. What do they weigh? Did the guy you got them from give you any indication?
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Re: .45Colt (LC) Reloaded Too Long
« Reply #74 on: July 20, 2019, 03:25:03 AM »
You said the original cartridges were 2mm too long, yet it looks like the bullets are seated more deep than that now? This raises another question.....are the bullets crimped in place? If not, they might "walk" out of the cylinder and tie up the gun. Also, with the bullets seated that deep, pressures might be increased. What were those bullets to be fired in? Maybe a rifle? That would likely make sense as the nose of the bullet would fit into the bore. What do they weigh? Did the guy you got them from give you any indication?

Hi Mazo, the OAL for the sample cartridge is 1.594", the bullet itself is 0.648" long and weighs 206gn. The sample cartridge is not crimped but I do plan to crimp them.

These bullets were previously fired in a much older Uberti 1858 Remmie using the same Kirst Conversion Cylinder I am using and the original reloaded cartridges that were too long and which I took apart.

I currently load copper plated 250gn bullets so I will check the length of the bullet to see if the spacing between bullet and powder is significantly different.

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