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Re: A good price for the Pietta 1851
« Reply #1 on: December 15, 2014, 08:42:52 AM »
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Re: A good price for the Pietta 1851
« Reply #2 on: December 15, 2014, 10:14:06 AM »
Hi, now to the end of the year is a good time to begin looking for those end of year inventory reduction revolver sales at Cabelas.

http://www.cabelas.com/catalog/search.cmd?form_state=searchForm&N=0&fsch=true&Ntk=AllProducts&Ntt=pietta+revolver&x=15&y=11&WTz_l=Header%3BSearch-All+Products

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Re: A good price for the Pietta 1851
« Reply #3 on: December 15, 2014, 10:30:10 AM »
Talking with Gunslinger and doing some reading  it appears. the Remington  .36 cal is built on the same frame as the .44.
If this is true, then there is no hideability / space saving advantage in the .36 for carrying.

Perhaps in the .32, But as I said I got rabbits that would laugh at me if I shot at them with a .32.
And it's really humiliating to be laughed at by a rabbit!!

While it's a good price on the gun above, I'm hoping their short barrelled version will  will come down in price also.
Right now it's $199   hopefully in a few days it will drop lower.
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Re: A good price for the Pietta 1851
« Reply #4 on: December 15, 2014, 11:02:49 AM »
It would be nice to see a good repro of the Remington New Model Police.  It is said that the Army-sized 36 holds a little more powder than the Colts, and I suppose it's weight would make for a very low felt recoil.

For a reduced size 36, the '62 Colt Police in 5.5" is pretty nice.  You only get five chambers, but that makes for a pretty compact revolver than still handles pretty well.

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Re: A good price for the Pietta 1851
« Reply #5 on: December 15, 2014, 11:29:03 AM »
Talking with Gunslinger and doing some reading  it appears. the Remington  .36 cal is built on the same frame as the .44.
If this is true, then there is no hideability / space saving advantage in the .36 for carrying.

Perhaps in the .32, But as I said I got rabbits that would laugh at me if I shot at them with a .32.
And it's really humiliating to be laughed at by a rabbit!!

While it's a good price on the gun above, I'm hoping their short barrelled version will  will come down in price also.
Right now it's $199   hopefully in a few days it will drop lower.

Hi DD, yes, that 36 caliber revolver is the same size as the .44 caliber Pietta 1851 Navy. The .44 never existed in history, but only in the mind of the Italians.  If you are interested in a short barreled 1851, you could buy this .44 1851 Yank:



For serious carry these .45 ACP are what I carry:



For more casual carry this is the .38 Special P+ that I carry:



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Re: A good price for the Pietta 1851
« Reply #6 on: December 15, 2014, 12:14:40 PM »
Hi, rabbits laugh at the .36 1851 Navy Colt?, see:



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Re: A good price for the Pietta 1851
« Reply #7 on: December 15, 2014, 05:53:00 PM »
 L'}   I can not find the laughing rabbit icon ..........

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Re: A good price for the Pietta 1851
« Reply #8 on: December 15, 2014, 07:36:44 PM »
How about a bunny with CCW license, a Rem 44, and an attitude?

Kinda changes the mix...

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Re: A good price for the Pietta 1851
« Reply #9 on: December 15, 2014, 07:40:20 PM »
Richard, that's a great video.  ;)
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Re: A good price for the Pietta 1851
« Reply #10 on: December 15, 2014, 07:47:46 PM »
No they laugh at the .31 and .32   but guess the sarcasm was lost on some.

What I am looking for is a short barrelled  3 1/2 to 5"  .36    I would prefer Remington design  6 shot  but want the smaller frame so will likely go with the 5"    Colt style.   
This will mostly be for making holsters for the smaller sizes.
side benefit is another gun to play with.
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Re: A good price for the Pietta 1851
« Reply #11 on: December 16, 2014, 05:37:46 AM »
No they laugh at the .31 and .32   but guess the sarcasm was lost on some.

What I am looking for is a short barrelled  3 1/2 to 5"  .36    I would prefer Remington design  6 shot  but want the smaller frame so will likely go with the 5"    Colt style.   
This will mostly be for making holsters for the smaller sizes.
side benefit is another gun to play with.

Hi DD, if you are looking for the greatest personal protection in a short BP revolver, a .44 is more advantageous than the .36 caliber.  For the same model type and the same barrel length, the .44 is lighter and more powerful than the .36. Not too long ago I purchased a .44 1851, added a .45 Colt conversion cylinder, and bought a short barrel from eBay to create this revolver:



BTW, even without the conversion cylinder, it is only second to the 1851 Yank:



Old South Firearms has a good price on the similar short barreled 1860 (same frame size as 1851):

http://www.oldsouthfirearms.com/Traditions1860ColtSnubNose.44cal.PiettaSteelFrameBlackPowder.aspx

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Re: A good price for the Pietta 1851
« Reply #12 on: December 16, 2014, 10:17:30 AM »
No they laugh at the .31 and .32   but guess the sarcasm was lost on some.

What I am looking for is a short barrelled  3 1/2 to 5"  .36    I would prefer Remington design  6 shot  but want the smaller frame so will likely go with the 5"    Colt style.   
This will mostly be for making holsters for the smaller sizes.
side benefit is another gun to play with.

Hi DD, if you are looking for the greatest personal protection in a short BP revolver, a .44 is more advantageous than the .36 caliber.  For the same model type and the same barrel length, the .44 is lighter and more powerful than the .36. Not too long ago I purchased a .44 1851, added a .45 Colt conversion cylinder, and bought a short barrel from eBay to create this revolver:



BTW, even without the conversion cylinder, it is only second to the 1851 Yank:



Old South Firearms has a good price on the similar short barreled 1860 (same frame size as 1851):

http://www.oldsouthfirearms.com/Traditions1860ColtSnubNose.44cal.PiettaSteelFrameBlackPowder.aspx

Regards,
Richard
I got an 1851  44  long barrel.  I might just buy a shorter barrel.  Just thinking, wishing etc.
I like the top one.
Went to your link  and to me $309  for a traditions is not a good price.
But I'm not in a big hurry.
Is the 1851 (?!)  44  and 36  same frame size?   Remember I'm also looking for a smaller one to use as template for smaller holsters.
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Re: A good price for the Pietta 1851
« Reply #13 on: December 16, 2014, 10:58:26 AM »
Hi DD, both the Pietta 1851 and 1860 Colts use the same frame irrespective of barrel length. (The only difference is that the 1860 has shoulder stock mount screws in the frame that the 1851 lacks.) The 1851 has a slight smaller grip than the larger grip 1860. You can mix and match barrels, calibers, frames, and grips to whatever combination you want.

I only got interested in the .36 caliber 1851 because I recently bought a Uberti 36 1862 Pocket Police where I now have .36 caliber loading supplies. Since I have the Pietta 1851 in .44, I almost purchased a .36 caliber barrel from eBay and a new .36 caliber cylinder from Cabelas. However, since the steel framed Pietta .36 1851 is almost the cost of those parts, I jumped on the Cabelas .36 1851 $170 sale.

My research suggests that there isn't a stock BP revolver more accurate than the .36 1851, a real tack driver. I'll soon learn if that's true. There's no more natural pointing revolver than the Colt and the large sight radius aids in accuracy. Also, the Colts are damn beautiful.

BTW, while the replica Colts have a terrible reputation of being cap suckers jamming up the action, there are a couple of good fixes. The simplest is to fill in the hammer grove with JB Weld. A more permanent fix is to add a small pin that keeps caps from coming off the nipples. 

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Re: A good price for the Pietta 1851
« Reply #14 on: December 16, 2014, 12:26:22 PM »
I been keeping an eye on Cabelas  on the 1851  36  with long barrel.
But also looking at the one with the 5" barrel.
If it would come down in price I would grab it.
But I might do it anyway closer to Christmas.

I like the designs of the  .31   / .32  no trigger guard.  But don't want that small of a caliber.  even though I cast balls for them.


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General Alexander A. Vandergrift, USMC
to the Senate Naval Affairs Committee, 5 May 1946
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