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Re: Tired of waiting for a new 1863 Pocket
« Reply #60 on: December 16, 2014, 10:39:46 AM »
Hi BG, these little pint sized revolvers are indeed a hoot to shoot. For some reason they get a bad rap for not being accurate, but IMO it's the shooter, not the revolvers. I think that some find the short sight radius the issue for them. Offsetting the short sight radius is the low recoil were a reasonable handgun form will allow one to realize the inherent accuracy of these cuties. Even when not shooting them they are a joy to fondle. Both the 1863 Remington and 1849 Colts are my favorite revolvers. They also have an advantage of consuming very little powder and lead. I can load 160 32 S&W with the same amount of TrailBoss powder as 50 .45 Colt. Bullets also cost less for the .32. Since I haven't been able to find any TrailBoss powder over the last couple of years, conserving what TrailBoss I have is useful to continued shooting in any caliber.

BTW, I'm not a natural handgun shooter, but have spent many many years practicing. When I was at Navy bootcamp I couldn't even hit the huge paper target from 50ft away. That early shooting failure encouraged learning to handgun shoot be added to my bucketlist.

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Re: Tired of waiting for a new 1863 Pocket
« Reply #61 on: December 16, 2014, 02:50:24 PM »
I have one of the little Remmies and enjoy it. Your accuracy with the conversion cylinder is what I was meaning. When I heard Mike B. talk about his, I pretty well decided against getting the conversion with the poor results he was getting.
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Re: Tired of waiting for a new 1863 Pocket
« Reply #62 on: December 16, 2014, 03:22:42 PM »
There are pointing guns and there are aiming guns. I think Mr. Mike was trying to aim a pointer, while Richard was shooting naturally.

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Re: Tired of waiting for a new 1863 Pocket
« Reply #63 on: December 17, 2014, 09:16:22 AM »
PHD, good point. No pun intended.
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Re: Tired of waiting for a new 1863 Pocket
« Reply #64 on: December 17, 2014, 09:47:34 AM »
Hi, BG, these pint sized revolvers shoot pretty well using the 32 S&W conversion cylinder. This is a test of my 1849 with the Howell 32 S&W conversion cylinder:

http://1858remington.com/discuss/index.php/topic,6458.msg113138.html#msg113138

I have done 2" groups @25yds using my Uberty 1849 Colts, see:

http://1858remington.com/discuss/index.php/topic,7153.msg123915.html#msg123915

While I have had to work very hard to becoming a good shot, it took practice, practice, and more practice. There are some naturally good handgun shooters. My wife is one of those lucky people. After I gave her some initial training on gun safety and handgun shooting, she promptly began to obliterate the x-ring from a target 25yds away using a S&W 686 with 38 Special P+. I have known a few other natural handgun shooters. I must continuously practice to keep a good form, either use it or lose it. Most handguns with good loading can always shoot much better than their user.

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Re: Tired of waiting for a new 1863 Pocket
« Reply #65 on: December 21, 2014, 11:46:00 AM »
Well I kinda like the design of the no trigger guard pocket. Just wish it was in .36 cal.

Since the .36 cal Remington is apparently based on the same frame as the .44  no advantage there in concealment or as a model for holster making.

so I guess i am going to go with the  Colt  1862 Army Police.

http://www.cabelas.com/product/Shooting/Firearms/Black-Powder-Firearms/Black-Powder-Revolvers|/pc/104792580/c/553829580/sc/571854780/i/567338580/Pietta-Model-1862-Army-Police-36-Caliber-Revolver/740535.uts?destination=%2Fcatalog%2Fbrowse%2Fblack-powder-revolvers%2F_%2FN-1115735%2FNs-CATEGORY_SEQ_567338580%3FWTz_l%3DUnknown%253Bcat571854780&WTz_l=Unknown%3Bcat571854780%3Bcat567338580

it has been at $199  for some time.  Getting this close to Christmas, I think if they were going to lower it any more, they would do so by now.
So guess later today will bite the bullet and get it.

Plus I have two auctions on ebay that end this afternoon.  Since my lee .50 REAL  mould has crapped out, see if I can win this mould at a reasonable price   as a replacement.  Not a REAL  but similar..  They all work the same when loading in a rifled muzzle loader.  REAL  is just a gimmick name of what happens during loading.

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Re: Tired of waiting for a new 1863 Pocket
« Reply #66 on: December 21, 2014, 12:19:53 PM »
Hi DD, IMO you will like the Pietta .36 Police. It looks like a fun gun. A few weeks ago I was torn between the Pietta .36 Police or the Uberti .36
Police. I opted for the Uberti because it had a more accurate configuration than the Pietta. The Uberti Pocket Police is on the same frame as the 1849 .31 Colt Pocket revolver. I ordered the Uberti on sale ($275) from Dixie Gun Works, but what I received in the mail was a Uberti .36 Pocket Navy. Since I like the octagon barrel of the Navy I decided to keep it. See:



The revolver on top is the Uberti .36 1862 Pocket Navy that has the same frame size as the two Uberti 1849 .31 Pocket revolvers shown below the .36 1862 Pocket Navy.

IMO even if the Cabelas .36 1862 Police becomes less than the current price of $200 in the next couple of weeks, it's still a good buy at the current price. If the price goes lower, I will buy the Pietta 1862 Police.

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Richard
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Re: Tired of waiting for a new 1863 Pocket
« Reply #67 on: December 21, 2014, 02:49:05 PM »
yes I was looking at the Uberti also. But the price was more than I desire to pay at this time.
However  Cabelas is sold out now, and no back orders currently allowed.
I emailed them maybe will hear tomorrow.
Or will have to wait till next go around.

But they have a $20 off code good till Monday.  So maybe I will look at a different one.
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Re: Tired of waiting for a new 1863 Pocket
« Reply #68 on: December 23, 2014, 09:06:06 AM »
I saw a sample of that smaller .36 colt made by Pietta in some of the SHOT Show stuff we were sent, but Pietta has never gone into production on it. I wish they would so we could get in on that.