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Offline mike116

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Anyone seen this before? Help with pistol ID
« on: August 24, 2014, 02:28:24 PM »
Has anyone seen this proofmark before?   this is the only mark on the pistol.  It is near the lock on the left side of the barrel.  The gun does not belong to me so I didn't have a chance to measure the barrel.  Looks to be .50 or .54 cal.   The barrel is rifled. 
The guy found it in a plastic bag by the road near his driveway 20 years ago.  Looks to be in really good shape considering.






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Re: Anyone seen this before? Help with pistol ID
« Reply #1 on: August 24, 2014, 05:06:42 PM »

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Re: Anyone seen this before? Help with pistol ID
« Reply #2 on: August 24, 2014, 05:22:42 PM »
I found this   Liege Belgium
that proof mark  has been in use since the 1890's or so
Possible it is an original  made between 1818 and 1893

http://damascus-barrels.com/Belgian_All_Proofmarks.html

still looking for more info.
But because of the proof mark it is likely original.
And the bore was likely measured in MM  not our typical caliber  sizing

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Re: Anyone seen this before? Help with pistol ID
« Reply #3 on: August 24, 2014, 06:08:01 PM »
That proof without the crown was used from about 1810-1893 when the crown over the oval was  added. It looks a lot like an 1807 Harpers Ferry. Maybe a Belgian knockoff.
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Re: Anyone seen this before? Help with pistol ID
« Reply #4 on: August 25, 2014, 07:06:34 AM »
Thanks for the help guys.  I thought it may a Liege mark but I am not familiar with these single shot pistols at all.   I looked some things up and I think it is probably an old (1840-1860) Belgian copy of a Harpers Ferry.   I'm going to get a better look at it when I can and try to verify some things.

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Re: Anyone seen this before? Help with pistol ID
« Reply #5 on: August 25, 2014, 11:38:44 AM »
Typical Liège. I think that number below the proof mark says 14.4, which would be .56 or .57
The brass cover of the grip has got a clever solution for keeping the upward rods in place and the left hand brass side plate seems to be some standard size and form for all European pistols of that time. It's a nice piece of iron.

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Re: Anyone seen this before? Help with pistol ID
« Reply #6 on: August 25, 2014, 06:14:44 PM »
Thanks Len,  I did manage to figure out the 14.4 means 28guage or .54cal.   I now have the pistol with me and am going to try to do a little more research on it and try to figure out a value for it.   The owner says he wants to keep it but may change his mind.