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Remington Vest Pocket What's it worth?
« on: January 19, 2014, 10:49:54 AM »
 I purchased a Remington "Vest Pocket" .22 and found a lot of pictures of them on the net, but none quite like this one. It appears to have factory engraving and "buffalo horn" grips. I found one close to it but it was a larger cal. serial # 4xxx. I purchased a hardback book on these little guns but want to know more on value.
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Re: Remington Vest Pocket What's it worth?
« Reply #1 on: January 19, 2014, 11:47:47 AM »
I believe that is a Remington Rider Derringer.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Remington_Rider_Single_Shot_Pistol
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Re: Remington Vest Pocket What's it worth?
« Reply #2 on: January 19, 2014, 12:12:00 PM »
Nope not a Rider, its a saw handled derringer in .22 caliber. I do believe those grips are dark walnut tho. I have no idea as to value or whether the engraving is factory. It looks more like stamped than engraved.
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Re: Remington Vest Pocket What's it worth?
« Reply #3 on: January 19, 2014, 02:28:38 PM »
Hawg, Your correct, it's not a Rider. The description for those said brass and no serial# or markings and pat. Sept 1859. This has a ser# and pat. date Oct 1 1861 stamped on it. The book I have can be seen on ebay now.. "Remington Vest Pocket Pistols" by Robert Hatfield has pictures on the cover of this piece. He says they were also called "Sawhandles".  He also wrote most had dark walnut grips but some were made with "Buffalo Horn" grips and a few were engraved as a special order.  I am mostly wondering how rare are the plated, engraved and buffalo horn ones are.

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Re: Remington Vest Pocket What's it worth?
« Reply #4 on: January 19, 2014, 03:08:21 PM »
Sorry, I'll shut up now and learn more. :-[

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Re: Remington Vest Pocket What's it worth?
« Reply #5 on: January 19, 2014, 05:02:31 PM »
I can't really help much. You'd probably do better at the Remington Society. http://www.remingtonsociety.com/
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« Reply #6 on: January 19, 2014, 07:21:51 PM »
OK, according to "Fladermans", these saw handles go from $275-$800 (17,000-20,000 made). I'd have to go with the engraving being hand done considering it's age. If there are no markings on the gun, then it's early production, if it's stasmped, you'll find the markings on the underside of the bbl and grip frame.
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« Reply #7 on: January 19, 2014, 09:02:08 PM »
Some very good info. Thanks for the help

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« Reply #8 on: January 20, 2014, 04:19:14 AM »
Roll stamping was done at the factory but from what I've seen these were hand engraved but had simpler designs. (^h
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« Reply #9 on: January 20, 2014, 11:52:52 AM »
Interesting info Hawg, I've never seen roll  stamping on antique gun frames before. My only personal experience was with a Manhattan 22 with a swing up bbl. It was a cheap piece when new, but still you could tell the engraving was done by hand.
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Re: Remington Vest Pocket What's it worth?
« Reply #10 on: January 20, 2014, 05:54:39 PM »
This is a .31 Bacon made in 1858. When you see it up close its obviously not hand cut.

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« Reply #11 on: January 30, 2014, 05:43:42 AM »
Hawg, Where were those Bacons made. That's the first picture of one I've eyeballed.

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Re: Remington Vest Pocket What's it worth?
« Reply #12 on: January 30, 2014, 10:41:44 PM »

  This is my 1st post here and looked for the Welcome Wagon. What is it and how do I find it?

Right here!
http://1858remington.com/discuss/index.php?board=13.0
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« Reply #13 on: January 31, 2014, 04:26:47 AM »
Found it! I'm enjoying this forum. I'm finding answers to questions to things I never thought of asking.

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Re: Remington Vest Pocket What's it worth?
« Reply #14 on: January 31, 2014, 06:49:20 PM »
Hawg, Where were those Bacons made. That's the first picture of one I've eyeballed.

Norwich Conn. That one is serial number 606. Here it is next to an Allen & Wheelock from the same year.

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