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Offline Okla1911

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Open Carry ?
« on: April 01, 2012, 07:09:41 PM »
Am I out of my mind or just crazy? Probably both , was just curious as I yet to purchase a Rem?
Lions dont prey on tigers - Thugs are to weak to mess with the strong thats why open carry is a good thing!


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Re: Open Carry ?
« Reply #1 on: April 01, 2012, 07:17:16 PM »
Nay, you aren't crazy. That Remington, be it a .44cal or a .36cal...will do some damage. Plus you will look COOL packing one.  ;)
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Re: Open Carry ?
« Reply #2 on: April 01, 2012, 10:18:40 PM »
I disagree, Sammy.
Open carry invites people to screw with you, challenge you, or try to take it from you. Also, despite the damage a C&B can do (which I'm well aware of, as you know) I would never trust my safety to a C&B weapon when so many readily available cartridge guns are available (unless for some reason you can't own one). In that case, a C&B is better than nothing.
CCW is no joke. If (pray God you don't) you need it, cool ain't gonna help you. And the local LEO's might wonder what your motive was, as well.
No, the days of Buffalo Bill are long gone. If you need to pack for protection, CCW is the way to go, and stuff a Glock in your sock.
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Re: Open Carry ?
« Reply #3 on: April 01, 2012, 11:56:17 PM »
That Second time Gov. Jerry Brown just spent our tax dollars on removing our open carry law in CA ... and that was with a handgun unloaded in a holster or in plain view on the front seat of yur vehicle. What a dweeb...
Capt. I have to agree with Sam on carrying a BP handgun for protection... whether it be an 1858 Rem or 1873 Colt ... C&B  .36 or  a .44 ... or a cartridge BP in 38Colt, .41CF or .41RF Colt, .44Colt/Rem, or .45Colt/Rem.
If a Glock in yur sock can be drawn faster than a Rem in my open top holster or my belt I'd have sumfin to worry about ... but I ain't worried ;) &j( ])M
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Re: Open Carry ?
« Reply #4 on: April 02, 2012, 12:33:49 AM »
Well yes, who wouldn't look cool packin' a Rem-Dog?  A Remington is, well, cool. I believe we here are all fairly well agreed on that.   Real hard on mountain lions, feral pigs,  sassy cans and gongs or even a potential bad guy  - no doubt.

We, here in North Cali of the black powder pistol and revolver  dispensation have a little joke about pulling a '58 Rem or a '60 Colt on car jackers in Oakland  (or anywhere) -- and the dudes fall down catatonic out of wonderment and fright and the fantods of WTF -- or at least immediately convert to the church of their choice if they happen to have one handy.

But alas, cool is for school (just made that up).  In an actual engagement out on real street,  or in the comfort of your own home for that matter,  have the courtesy to provide rude-felon criminal assailants the effects of something in the nature of modern weaponry.  Believe this: If the s*it hits it won't be like any dam movie anyone ever saw.  In verity, such doin's are neither sport nor fashion show.

Now, go buy that Remington, live free and friendly and have a ball. 

Additionally, the life you save could be...well...my own.
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Re: Open Carry ?
« Reply #5 on: April 02, 2012, 01:01:25 AM »
I will have to go with the Capt on this one. I am sure there are areas of the country where no one would think twice of seeing someone 'open carry'. The funny part, it is those parts,
that probably don't need to OC or CC. i.e. would you walk thru East LA OC.Nope you would be
severely out gunned and out maned. Not just there but many other areas just as bad as
ELA.I do not use my sock to carry my CC handgun. I cannot see anything positive about
OC.Most of what comes to my mind is all negative....
Lets keep in mind this is just my opinion,of which,I think is one of the Freedoms we still
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Re: Open Carry ?
« Reply #6 on: April 02, 2012, 01:26:03 AM »
Well yes, who wouldn't look cool packin' a Rem-Dog?
 
We, here in North Cali of the black powder pistol and revolver  dispensation have a little joke about pulling a '58 Rem or a '60 Colt on car jackers in Oakland  (or anywhere) -- and the dudes fall down catatonic out of wonderment and fright and the fantods of WTF -- or at least immediately convert to the church of their choice if they happen to have one handy.

But alas, cool is for school (just made that up).  In an actual engagement out on real street,  or in the comfort of your own home for that matter,  have the courtesy to provide rude-felon criminal assailants the effects of something in the nature of modern weaponry.  Believe this: If the s*it hits it won't be like any dam movie anyone ever saw.  In verity, such doin's are neither sport nor fashion show.
Now, go buy that Remington, live free and friendly and have a ball.

G-Dog,
        I think we are saying the same thing,in a different way.
Any one remember the line from the "UNTOUCHABLES"! "Just like a W... to bring a knife
to a gunfight?"! Kinda along the same lines.
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Re: Open Carry ?
« Reply #7 on: April 02, 2012, 01:42:26 AM »
Here's what Open Carry was here in California what I was speaking of with Gov. Jerry Brown changin' it ... http://www.shouselaw.com/open-carry.html ... and as you can see anyone in California wouldn't be carrying Open for protection what so ever it was mostly for going to the Range, Hunting, Camping, Traveling, Ect. w/o havin' to lock um all up in yer vehicle, or to go into a Gun Shop/Range... i.e. trigger locks and the like... as far as bringin' a knife to a gunfight one on one ... I'd have to say that it weren't quite true with my Rems at least ;)
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Re: Open Carry ?
« Reply #8 on: April 02, 2012, 02:44:57 AM »
Mr. Snake Eye,

I think we agree on a lot of this
but, a Rem '58 is not my idea of a knife to a gun fight.  Its the real deal in lethality and it handles.
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Re: Open Carry ?
« Reply #9 on: April 02, 2012, 02:54:22 AM »
ng, Ect. w/o havin' to lock um all up in yer vehicle, or to go into a Gun Shop/Range... i.e. trigger locks and the like... as far as bringin' a knife to a gunfight one on one ... I'd have to say that it weren't quite true with my Rems at least ;)
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Re: Open Carry ?
« Reply #10 on: April 02, 2012, 03:04:59 AM »
John you mean the one with Kevin Costner? I've watched it a few times ... but not recently enough for my CRS to forget the scene (?^ I do remember it said though ...refresh my poor memory ... where were they and did Costner say it?
Thanks... ])M

He may not have ever come a part Akwesasne (Mohawk) with a knife heh heh ;)
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Re: Open Carry ?
« Reply #11 on: April 02, 2012, 06:40:23 AM »
I disagree, Sammy.
Open carry invites people to screw with you, challenge you, or try to take it from you....  And the local LEO's might wonder what your motive was, as well.
No, the days of Buffalo Bill are long gone. If you need to pack for protection, CCW is the way to go, and stuff a Glock in your sock.

Sorry to disagree but it ain't happened, prior to constitutional carry becoming the Law in AZ, OC was and still is legal. No punks up in my face, to challenge me. No one trying to take it away. Thugs are cowards, they prefer lamb to lion. The target the OC guy first, goes out the window when 2, 3 or even 10 are carrying open. I'm told that my gun on my hip covered by a Hawawian Shirt screams carry. I might as well OC, to me , here it is no big deal. Must admit I see it less now that how you carry doesn't control your wardrobe. Carried open for 35 years the first thing you notice is the world got suddenly polite, and thugs seek to to be elsewhere. Toted a ROA crossdraw many years no problems. Twice now in two years I have had to draw from cover, to clear up a misunderstanding wether I was sheep or sheepdog. My bottom line, speak softly and wear a loud shirt. CC or OC the important thing is to carry.

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Re: Open Carry ?
« Reply #12 on: April 02, 2012, 07:57:44 AM »
i moved to maine and used to open carry until i started noticing the looks from people who saw my 58 remmy in its slim jim on my belt... i soon realized just because mainers see it as normal, massholes (people from massachusetts, an anti gun lib state) have a tendancy to freak out when they see a real gun in real life. most of those poor people from massafornia dont think that being able to protect yourself from criminal attack is a right nor a necessity and the best course of action when in a life or death situation is to wait for some super hero to fly in and rescue them, or just lay flat on your back and do what the nice rapist tells you to...

here in maine we will show mr bad guy right into a zipper bag...

i CCW now just to make the massholes and nu-yurk-ah's feel better when they come visit my state...
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Re: Open Carry ?
« Reply #13 on: April 02, 2012, 08:01:20 AM »
well they just passed the open carry law here, where i live i dont believe it begs attention. Whether it be a Remy or glock. This state is not a holder /ubuma state ,not one county in the whole state voted that way, but carrying open shouldnt be that big a deal anyway. Besides carrying a Remy would be cool, until im proficient shooting one i will stick with my Colt Gov or maybe my Glock 22, but rest assured Ill be carrying that Remy, and the poor folks out in the Socialist Democratic state of Kalifornistan , if all your allowed to carry is BP , then carry and carry often, practice alot and let the thugs and "slugs" know you mean business!

I also believe the punks wont confront you because you open carry, they know you mean business , a lion doesnt seek prey from a tiger!
Lions dont prey on tigers - Thugs are to weak to mess with the strong thats why open carry is a good thing!


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Re: Open Carry ?
« Reply #14 on: April 02, 2012, 09:34:22 PM »
I disagree, Sammy.
Open carry invites people to screw with you, challenge you, or try to take it from you.
Under some circumstances, this may be true. However, this reminds me of an incident that happened at home on January 28, 2011. This is a reprint of a post from that night.....
It is near midnight and as I am typing this, there are US Marshals on our property and in the adjoining wooded area is search of an armed robbery suspect, that was apparently holed up in the barn in the backyard.

It all started this afternoon, when my son was playing in the barn, the dogs got after something, he said he thought he heard someone talking amongst the sound of clatter. I was busy getting ready to go out to eat, he was safe in the house, and so I dismissed it. I normally would go out and check it out.

We went out to eat. Afterwards, I left to come home alone while my wife, son and mother in law went elsewhere. I live about 100-150 yards off of the paved road, my mother in law lives at the road. I started down the dirt road to our house, but circled around and pulled up in my mother in law's back yard and left the car for my wife to drive home with when they returned to my mother in law's house. I walked home, we live behind her.  I strapped my shoulder rig on over my jacket. My other rev was in my laptop bag which I had slung over my shoulder.

When I had drove around our motion sensor-ed light on the back porch was off, now it was on. The dogs set it off often, so I didn't think much of it. I walked on up to the house and went inside.

Within 3 minutes my wife called and said our nephew next door had saw a man near the property line in the front yard. He asked the man to leave. The guy told him he wasn't out to start anything, he was running from the law. I walked outside, with both revolvers, all was quiet. Wife and mother in law drove up a few minutes later and we searched the area and found tracks. They call the law. Turned out they were after a guy that had robbed a convenience store and was considered armed and dangerous.

They brought the dogs, which picked his scent, he had been in the barn in the area my son had heard the noise and across the property.

Now when I approached the house walking home, he may have mistaken me for law enforcement, he may have thought I was in an unmarked car minutes before. It appears as if he was retreating but he may have been watching me.

I think he was retreating, perhaps he had ditched the gun he had used in the robbery and was unarmed. If he had been armed and aggressive, he could have grabbed my son and made his way into the house with him at gunpoint. He didn't confront my young nephew, he just wanted to get away. He could have easily had the drop on me if he would have came around the corner of the house with a weapon. My having a black powder weapon would not have been my shortcoming, only my lack of preparedness for the unexpected. There was nothing visually out of the ordinary, if I would have been more alert though, I think I would have spotted him.

I think I got lucky this time that this guy was not aggressive, He had the advantage on me twice.

Tonight, we are instructed not to go outside, because of danger from the suspect and the danger of an encounter with the officers patrolling the area. I'll be up late tonight, won't be taking any chances. My neighbors (in laws) went to a motel for the night. Interesting, they have a large caliber bolt action rifle (not sure what kind) and the man of the house is a second degree black belt.