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Offline BOOMSTICK BRUCE

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ranger SXS
« on: July 16, 2017, 05:52:15 AM »
So i picked up a single trigger SXS 12ga yesterday at the flea market. its in great condition! The only markings it has is "ranger" and the serial number... the guy told me it is a single trigger stevens 311 but i cant find anything on the interwebs to confirm that... a few other forums have info on "ranger" shotguns (sears brand) but its all double trigger sxs or O/U single trigger guns, not single trigger SXS's

do any of you guys have, seen or remember these guns?

I fired it yesterday and and she may be replacing my 311 as my match shotgun for SASS but i'm hoping to find out its not some super rare worth a gazillion dollars gun before i go hacking the barrel off
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Re: ranger SXS
« Reply #1 on: July 16, 2017, 06:34:40 AM »
It probably is a Stevens. The single trigger was an option for a couple of bucks more but it could be a 311 or a 315 or a 515 or a 330 or a 530 or even a 5000 or 5100. Whack away it's never going to be worth much but I don't understand why you want to. You don't need short barrels for CAS and short barrels make it pretty useless for anything else and if you decide to sell it with chopped barrels you'll probably not get 75.00 bucks for it. Stevens 311 barrels in their full length are impossible to find. I've been looking for a set for my 311H for about 7 or 8 years now.
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Re: ranger SXS
« Reply #2 on: July 16, 2017, 09:02:51 AM »
reviewing a couple other forums I found this

Probably a Stevens or  fulton
Turn the action over; if there is a screw in the trigger plate it's probably a Fulton. If not it's probably a Stevens.

He goes on to say....
Feb. 10, 1914, refers to G.S. Lewis' Patent No. 1,086,378 assigned to the J. Stevens Arms & Tool Co. of Chicopee Falls, Mass. The patent covers a coil-spring powered hammer double built on a box frame. The gun was introduced in the J. Stevens Arms & Tool Co. Catalog No. 54 as a Riverside Arms Co. No. 215. After WW-I the J. Stevens Arms Co., now a wholly owned subsidiary of Savage Arms Corp. continued to manufacture the gun as a Riverside Arms Co. No. 215 into the late 1920s. By 1930 they dropped the Riverside name and their low priced line of guns was Springfield Arms Co., and the gun was still a No. 215. In addition to their Riverside and Springfield names they manufactured these guns under numerous "trade names" including RANGER for Sear, Roebuck & Co. T

but this may not be your gun   you mention 311 (?) he says  215

here's a forum  that has some pictures you might check it out
http://www.doublegunshop.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=296042

also found this website with schematics of Ranger shot guns
https://www.gunpartscorp.com/Manufacturers/Ranger-33450.htm
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Re: ranger SXS
« Reply #3 on: July 16, 2017, 09:40:42 AM »
If there is only one trigger...How do you know which barrel is going to go Bang?  (^h
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Re: ranger SXS
« Reply #4 on: July 16, 2017, 10:42:43 AM »
All six go simultaneously
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Re: ranger SXS
« Reply #5 on: July 16, 2017, 03:01:46 PM »
Yep, three on the left then three on the right.  Actually it takes a double pull.  You learn which side goes on the first pull, because it will always be that side on the first pull.  Presumably the first pull sets the other sear for the second pull, so you let off the trigger, then pull again.
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Re: ranger SXS
« Reply #6 on: July 17, 2017, 11:50:46 AM »
Quote from: Hawg on July 16, 2017, 06:34:40 AM
It probably is a Stevens. The single trigger was an option for a couple of bucks more but it could be a 311 or a 315 or a 515 or a 330 or a 530 or even a 5000 or 5100. Whack away it's never going to be worth much but I don't understand why you want to. You don't need short barrels for CAS and short barrels make it pretty useless for anything else and if you decide to sell it with chopped barrels you'll probably not get 75.00 bucks for it. Stevens 311 barrels in their full length are impossible to find. I've been looking for a set for my 311H for about 7 or 8 years now.

here i found one for you!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Stevens-311-Springfield-5100-Barrel-Set-12-Gauge-SXS-30-inches-Used-/272739792110?hash=item3f808ef4ee:g:Y4oAAOSwFqNZU-Jj
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Re: ranger SXS
« Reply #7 on: July 17, 2017, 01:45:20 PM »
Thanks but those fit a 5100 not a 311 or not my 311 made in 57 anyway. Even if they would fit I'm not giving 185.00 bucks for a set of barrels for a 200 dollar shotgun.

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Re: ranger SXS
« Reply #8 on: July 17, 2017, 08:56:36 PM »
Quote from: Hawg on July 17, 2017, 01:45:20 PM
Thanks but those fit a 5100 not a 311 or not my 311 made in 57 anyway. Even if they would fit I'm not giving 185.00 bucks for a set of barrels for a 200 dollar shotgun.



right!!! i was looking for a spare set for my 311 and the last set i saw was over $150! like a fool i paid $300 for my "patina" brown wards westernfield 311 but i needed a SXS ASAP and the guy would not come down any on it, i bought it the night before my first SASS shoot and fired it for the first time that next morning at the shoot... i cut it down to 20" that night lol...

i still have the 10" of  barrel i cut off, you could weld it onto yours  (^h
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Re: ranger SXS
« Reply #9 on: July 17, 2017, 11:52:41 PM »
That's weird. My pic showed up and stayed up for several hours today. I thought PB had a change of heart. )L$
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Re: ranger SXS
« Reply #10 on: July 18, 2017, 03:22:26 PM »
nope it is now replaced with a PB ad
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Re: ranger SXS
« Reply #11 on: July 18, 2017, 04:33:00 PM »
Have we ascertained that it's a Stevens? What's on the barrel flats? Zabala Hermanos, the Basque-Spanish maker from Eibar made lots of sxs guns for Sears, Montgomery Ward and others in the late 50s and 60s. Single trigger Spanish guns of that era made to hit department store price points are suspect. Hope yours is reliable and fun.
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« Reply #12 on: July 18, 2017, 07:38:00 PM »
pics...
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Re: ranger SXS
« Reply #13 on: July 18, 2017, 09:26:39 PM »
If that's an I7 in the circle on the bottom of the receiver in the last pic it's a Stevens date code for 1957. The letter is the code not the number.
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« Reply #14 on: July 18, 2017, 10:41:15 PM »
no its clearly a "1"
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