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Offline Captainkirk

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Well, shit!
« on: September 18, 2011, 11:33:49 PM »
Well, shit! Done it again! :D
There was this S&G repro (only they didn't know it; listed as a "1851 Brass Navy Colt..." (heh, heh!) on Auction Arms, ya see...... {L*
Long story short: I own it. {:(
Pix and story to follow, once I get it.......  {?(
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Re: Well, shit!
« Reply #1 on: September 19, 2011, 03:42:35 AM »
auction arms and gunbroker are bad places to be when you have a little cash available.

Cant want to see pics
Its better collecting Cap n Ball than Milsurp. Although the M1941 Johnson MG is a nice piece of equipment, I would rather get a reputation for sitting around playing with my Remingtons.

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Re: Well, shit!
« Reply #2 on: September 19, 2011, 04:46:58 AM »
speakin o shit, captain's the only guy i know can fall into a pile of it and come up smellin like chan'el #5  ! (?^  good deal fer you kirk, ill be waiting on the pics!
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Re: Well, shit!
« Reply #3 on: September 19, 2011, 01:04:00 PM »
Pics, we need Pics!!!!!!!!!

BTW, there always seems to be at least one or two listed on GB.  Sometimes exceedingly cheap.  Hope yours was.

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Re: Well, shit!
« Reply #4 on: September 19, 2011, 01:07:27 PM »
Hey, I can fall in it too..............just never have that $20 to $60 to catch me with.  ;)
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Re: Well, shit!
« Reply #5 on: September 19, 2011, 01:42:26 PM »
yea the capt got it bad   real bad he caint help hisself!     hi im captain kirk and im a gunaholic.  hi captain!
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« Reply #6 on: September 19, 2011, 01:47:09 PM »
Hi Captain.  (?^
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Re: Well, shit!
« Reply #7 on: September 19, 2011, 03:05:23 PM »
Pics, we need Pics!!!!!!!!!

BTW, there always seems to be at least one or two listed on GB.  Sometimes exceedingly cheap.  Hope yours was.

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It wasn't a steal, but I don't call 100 bucks a bad deal for an unfired gun.
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Re: Well, shit!
« Reply #8 on: September 19, 2011, 03:06:01 PM »
yea the capt got it bad   real bad he caint help hisself!     hi im captain kirk and im a gunaholic.  hi captain!

Ya don't hear me denying it, do ya? :-X
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Re: Well, shit!
« Reply #9 on: September 19, 2011, 05:06:49 PM »
well at least yer not in denial!
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Re: Well, shit!
« Reply #10 on: September 19, 2011, 06:31:12 PM »
Good catch  {?|
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Re: Well, shit!
« Reply #11 on: September 19, 2011, 06:55:40 PM »
Pics, we need Pics!!!!!!!!!

BTW, there always seems to be at least one or two listed on GB.  Sometimes exceedingly cheap.  Hope yours was.

FM

It wasn't a steal, but I don't call 100 bucks a bad deal for an unfired gun.

That's what I would consider a very, very good deal - bordering on a steal   {?|
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Re: Well, shit!
« Reply #12 on: September 19, 2011, 10:10:29 PM »
That's why! ;)
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Re: Well, shit!
« Reply #13 on: September 19, 2011, 10:39:17 PM »
Just FYI, for you collector-types:
Been doing a bit of reading lately, both on Jim Davis' excellent site:

http://rprca.tripod.com/Home.html

and also the article that Fingers posted on the Schneider & Glassick:

http://blackpowdersmoke.com/revolvers/index.php?topic=207.0

(I think this was posted here as well, but couldn't find it)

Many times in the past I've seen "Colt Brasser" 1851 Models. Never paid 'em much attention; never had much interest in brassers.
But, after doing a bit of reading on the subject, I find that:
*Colt never made a brass-framed revolver
*Colt never made a .44 Navy
*All the Griswold & Gunnison models had round barrels
*The only known S&Gs (only three in existence) had plain unmarked cylinders in .36 cal.
So, what then, is a brass-framed 1851 replica, plain un-engraved cylinder in cal. .36, with an octagon barrel? You know, the cheap one on the auction sites touted as a "brass Colt 1851 Navy"?
It's an unintentional  Schneider & Glassick. Something that actually existed, but the replica maker didn't know, in almost certain terms. Why else would they sell them as a brass 1851 Navy, and label them as such?
Do I have your interest yet?
It certainly caught mine! Which is why I started looking, and found one. And the Fingers is right; many times you'll find them listed as a brass 1851 Navy (by the uninitiated) and dirt-cheap at that.
NOW do I have your interest?
Just for comparison purposes:
*.44 cal, with rebated cylinder; NOT S&G
*.36 cal with Ormsby stage coach scene; NOT S&G
* Round barrel; NOT S&G

But if you find that brass framed, octagon barrel .36 cal Navy with a plain steel cylinder.....chances are it's not the run-of-the-mill gun they think it is, and would make an interesting addition to anyone's Reb gun collection.
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Re: Well, shit!
« Reply #14 on: September 19, 2011, 11:15:15 PM »
Ya hit the nail on the head Cpt.
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