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Projectiles / Re: .44 Starr Revolver Paper Cartridges
« Last post by Omnivore on January 19, 2018, 01:00:23 PM »
Neat!  That bullet has a crimp groove-- An excellent example of how a standard 45 bullet for metal cartridges can be "heeled" in a Lyman/RCBS lube sizer, in conjunction with the gas check seater accessory to control depth, and used in a percussion revolver.  That opens up a vast array of existing bullet molds, and commercial swaged lead bullets, for use with these guns.
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Rogers & Spencer / Re: Freeman Army 44 cal / IT FINALLY ARRIVED!
« Last post by Racing on January 19, 2018, 11:40:56 AM »
Speed loading is a modern thing. It wasn't a consideration back in the day.

Mm. Be that as it may it´s been told more then once how soldiers carried more then one cylinder. Think of it what you wish.



So i was sitting there noodling around with the piece right,when the trigger and bolt return spring broke. ´N i´ll tell you what,picking a new one up at a vendor is...kind of moot right.
So i took to making a new one on my own. From 0,8mm stock feeler gauge. Worked like a charm i´d say! That done i took to focus on that excenter ´n lo n behold..

So in short we´ve got us a fully working Freeman 44 Army since about an hr back.  &j(

Now,the piece still needs new nipples and the odd touch or two,but on a general whole the gun is ready to be put through its paces.
Content. Really really content. (k-

@Len.
Yeah. To say the least..once a tinkerer always one huh.. )L$
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Projectiles / Re: .44 Starr Revolver Paper Cartridges
« Last post by mike116 on January 19, 2018, 11:37:03 AM »
Never had the opportunity to play with a Star revolver.   I know where there is a NIB Star DA for sale.   My memory isn't what it used to be but I think $325 is what he's asking for it.   It's been there for at least 3 years.

Nice revolver and cartridges Wash buster,  I always add a lube cookie in my paper carts too.     
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Projectiles / .44 Starr Revolver Paper Cartridges
« Last post by WASH BUSTER on January 19, 2018, 11:07:56 AM »
Made some special paper cartridges for my Starr Single Action Revolver. These cartridges are kinda special,the loading port that Pietta gives ya is very small so it takes a different bullet.I use a 160 grain flat point bullet that I in  turn rebate the base in my Lyman sizer to .439 that way it will go into the cylinder and fit under the loading lever.The rest of the bullet is .452,it has a lube band but I still use a lube pill.All my paper cartridges I fit with a .375 pill all it needs to keep running.Powder charge is 30 grain of my home made powder.Lots of smoke but plenty of power for that light bullet. The Single Action Starr is an excellent pistol after I finished the fitting that Pietta doesn't do.I just wish somebody made a conversion cylinder it would be one of the best pistols in my possesion.I also have a Double Action that works just as good or better.Lot of people dog um but there just like the rest of the Italian guns they need some work.
https://image.com/a/JwJ33
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Rogers & Spencer / Re: Freeman Army 44 cal / IT FINALLY ARRIVED!
« Last post by Len on January 19, 2018, 10:35:36 AM »
Nice acquisition, Racing.
Isn't it lovely to dig into it and try getting it all right?
Looking forward to hear the range report.
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Gunsmithing/Tuning/Parts & Repairs / Re: Pin diameter
« Last post by ssb73q on January 19, 2018, 09:26:17 AM »
Hi Bruce, the base pin of the Uberti 1858 is a slightly smaller diameter than the Pietta 1858. I replaced the smaller diameter Uberti 1858 Carbine with a Pietta 1858 base pin on my modified 1858 Carbine that uses Pietta cylinders.

This is an interesting video on modifying an 1858 base pin to minimize fouling:



Regards,
Richard
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Pocket Remingtons and Derringers / Re: Pocket Remmie Repair/Rebuild
« Last post by ssb73q on January 19, 2018, 09:14:26 AM »
Hi deebee, welcome to the group. I had a similar problem of too strong a hammer spring with two 1863 Remington's. I ordered two replacement hammer springs, but neither of them had the right shape to work properly. I ended up narrowing by grinding the original hammer spring where the force to cock the hammer was reduced to a reasonable level.

Regards,
Richard
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Rogers & Spencer / Re: Freeman Army 44 cal / IT FINALLY ARRIVED!
« Last post by Hawg on January 19, 2018, 08:00:23 AM »
That rectangular "blob" up front there,just imagine the difference in speedloading the thing had the corners of it been beveled. Severly even. Just as ONE idea, and why that wasn´t done right off the bat?

Speed loading is a modern thing. It wasn't a consideration back in the day.
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Pocket Remingtons and Derringers / Re: Pocket Remmie Repair/Rebuild
« Last post by Racing on January 19, 2018, 07:32:23 AM »
For the hammer spring you can reduce the width or the thickness. If you do either of those do it for most of the length of the spring. You could also mill a slot down the center of it for most of the length.

Exactly. Use a Dremel tool to cut the width of the mainspring down. Use judgement though so it doesn´t get TO light. Always better to check the progress one time to may then having to replace the thing as you went overboard.
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