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CAS/SASS Shooting / Re: SASS and the remingtons
« Last post by Hawg on Today at 07:24:18 AM »
Those guys don't know much about historical weapons. They may be walking encyclopedias about western history( probably not) but complete idiots where the guns are concerned.
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CAS/SASS Shooting / SASS and the remingtons
« Last post by BOOMSTICK BRUCE on June 27, 2017, 10:03:48 PM »
I find it strangely funny how many SASS shooters have no idea what a remington is. It's like all they have ever seen are colts and rugers... One guy i met at taylors the other day told me they werent legal for SASS since SASS rules dont allow double action revolvers... i mean, most of these guys are OLD and it seams in my measly 42 years i have lived, i have gained much more information and knowledge about the civil war and real "cowboy" life than some of these guys ever will it seems... 

dont get me wrong, these are the nicest bunch of guys and gals i have ever shot with, its just a lack of being informed. yes the colts/rugers are nice, i have a pair of ROA's and the quality, fit and function is better than my remingtons, but my remmys are more accurate and much lighter. its like they see the remmys and they are like "what are those?" and when i tell them, it seems since they have never seen or heard of the remington 58, they must be el cheapo saturday night specials... makes me want to beat them with my "el cheapo" 58's even more...

the funniest part is there are a few shooters with a pair $1000 rugers, $1800 uberti 73's and $2000 SKB shotguns that trooper ozzy and i keep beating at these matches with our converted 58's and our rossi 92's...lol... one guy actually compared his skb to my stevens using the phrase "its like a Ferrari vs a dump truck"... i shot the skb "Ferrari" in the last stage of my last match and did not like it one bit... way too light and kicked the shit out of me... ill keep my dump truck, thank you very much... besides, it will last much longer than that "Ferrari"...
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Other Remingtons / Re: Another Remington ????
« Last post by Old and grumpy on June 27, 2017, 08:59:26 PM »
Thanks for the info.

Came home today with some 2ff  AND a wood rod.

As for getting hooked it's too late.  Built a Kentucky pistol, working on a Colonial and a New Orleans Ace, and don't even ask about revolvers! 

"Once you go black you never go back."  What? They weren't talking about guns?

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Griswold & Gunnison / Re: Home Gunsmith G&G Special! 3 Pistols
« Last post by B. P. Roscoe on June 27, 2017, 08:37:44 PM »
That should be a fun project!
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Black Powder and History / Re: The War Between the States-The "Civil War"
« Last post by DD4lifeusmc on June 27, 2017, 03:38:57 PM »
I deliberately worded it that way.   Figured somebody would figure it out.
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Other Remingtons / Re: Another Remington ????
« Last post by ninetoes on June 27, 2017, 01:41:51 PM »
The Remington "Zouave" rifle was actually supposed to be a "Mississippi" rifle of 1841, and it was, sort of, the same rifle. The caliber was changed to the standard .58, and they made a few other cosmetic changes, mostly based on the M1855 rifle. These saw little or no use in the field, being produced too late in the war and being a non-standard (by that time) rifle model. They wound up at Bannerman's, sold as surplus around 1905 for pennies on the dollar, still brand new in the cases. Bannerman's sold them until literally the late 1930's for ludicrously low prices. Many originals are found in mint or like-new condition as they spent 40-odd years crated up and never used.
You have a Zoli reproduction, one of the better versions. There are several different manufacturers and not all are good; yours, I'm happy to tell you, is one of the best.
Just for giggles, try it out with 50 grains of powder, a.570 round ball and tight patch. You'll need to get  a real wood ramrod, the steel one is OK for Minie balls but just isn't up to this, but I've known several fellas who hunted with this combo and swore by it for accuracy and power. Minie balls work just fine killing grouped men out to 300 yards, but for accuracy go with the round ball (or a solid conical). It'll either be .570 or .575, depending on your gun-there was a LOT of variation in these replicas.
I would not use 3f in a .58, your fouling will be a lot worse, but that's just me. A lot of people do indeed use 3f, usually in the 40 to 60 grain range. Full military load is 80 grains and a Minie, which will rattle your teeth a bit from recoil.
Filling the base of the Minie balls with lube is really to keep your fouling soft and easier to clean out, just like the lubed patches in revolvers. It's not necessary to do, but does help with that. You can wipe every two or three shots and accomplish the same thing.
Now, here's an important thing to know. It's nearly impossible to own only one muzzleloader. It just is. You'll now start wondering about Kentucky rifles, Trade muskets, Hawken and Plains rifles, heck, even them modern abominations known as in-lines (Yuck. OK, perhaps I go too far...)
Point is, you're gone now, you're infected with the bug. Just give in now and get used to the idea.  ;)
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Black Powder and History / Re: The War Between the States-The "Civil War"
« Last post by BlackpowderJim on June 27, 2017, 11:15:09 AM »
Apr 12, 1861 – May 9, 1865

This was so easy I'm disappointed no one even ventured a guess.
so many of you claim to have books on the civil war at home
and you didn't know the start and end dates of the civil war

I think the way you worded it threw us off track. April 12, 1861 is very important to me since April 12 is my B'day (not 1861).
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Black Powder and History / Re: The War Between the States-The "Civil War"
« Last post by DD4lifeusmc on June 27, 2017, 09:28:33 AM »
Mauser ( the gun maker)     Franz ( one of the brothers) came to the US  and worked for Eli
Remington

Mauser took the Dreyse  needle system, Improved it by making the needle ( firing pin) strike
a cap ( primer versus percussion cap) at the back of the cartridge instead of the front.

also they developed the typical as we know it today  bolt action rifle.  Where rotating the bolt both cocked the rifle and pulling it backward ejected the shell.
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Black Powder and History / Re: The War Between the States-The "Civil War"
« Last post by DD4lifeusmc on June 27, 2017, 06:56:37 AM »
Apr 12, 1861 – May 9, 1865

This was so easy I'm disappointed no one even ventured a guess.
so many of you claim to have books on the civil war at home
and you didn't know the start and end dates of the civil war
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Colt Revolvers / Re: 1860 Colt Army (Second Generation Colt F1200)
« Last post by B. P. Roscoe on June 26, 2017, 10:51:58 PM »
Thank you for the good words.

I did shoot it this afternoon.  It shoots very high, but I get good groups.  At 50 yards I got a six inch group.  At 100 yards the sights are so far off I could not get on paper.  Then some other guys were showing up and so I gave up on it for now.

I did get a chance to shoot these while I was there...
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