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1858 Remington Discussions => 1858 Remington Revolvers => Topic started by: Remmie58 on March 30, 2015, 05:56:56 PM

Title: Cylinder & grips
Post by: Remmie58 on March 30, 2015, 05:56:56 PM
Today (on my 5-1/2"), I added a stainless cylinder from Cabela's (which sets off the brass trigger guard nicely) & imitation stag grips from gungrip.com. Despite some negative reviews, this is the 2nd set of grips from that co.; and, both times have been trouble-free. In fact, it seems there's been a manufacturing improvement, as they install quicker & easier than the last pair. Although I like the wooden grips, these certainly fill the hand better, with a more positive grip. I know this is a tease, as I don't have a camera; but, I can tell you that the gun looks great w/these 2 mods.
Title: Re: Cylinder & grips
Post by: mazo kid on March 31, 2015, 09:32:26 AM
Do you have a friend with a cameras? Trying to visualize is not the same as actually SEEING the results.
Title: Re: Cylinder & grips
Post by: BOOMSTICK BRUCE on March 31, 2015, 09:57:38 AM
yup, rule is post pics or it didn't happen!!!

(actually we are addicted to gun porn)
Title: Re: Cylinder & grips
Post by: Remmie58 on March 31, 2015, 11:35:30 AM
 (^h 
Hmmm, lemme see........
Title: Re: Cylinder & grips
Post by: Omnivore on March 31, 2015, 07:03:32 PM
Sounds interesting.  I do hereby second (or rather third) the motion to call for the posting of images.

If you have a "smart" phone or an iPad it's super easy, being that the camera and the computer from with you do your on-line posting are one in the same device.  Otherwise, once you get your photos loaded from your camera onto your computer, it's still pretty easy.
Title: Re: Cylinder & grips
Post by: Remmie58 on April 01, 2015, 12:52:54 AM
Sounds interesting.  I do hereby second (or rather third) the motion to call for the posting of images.

If you have a "smart" phone or an iPad it's super easy, being that the camera and the computer from with you do your on-line posting are one in the same device.  Otherwise, once you get your photos loaded from your camera onto your computer, it's still pretty easy.

I don't have any of those things (including a camera). My living in the past extends far beyond my choice of weapons.  ])M
Title: Re: Cylinder & grips
Post by: Mad Dog Stafford on April 01, 2015, 08:19:09 AM
Hi Remmie58, I too have the SS cylinder in my 5.5 Remington. I like the looks of it.  (T^
Title: Re: Cylinder & grips
Post by: BOOMSTICK BRUCE on April 01, 2015, 11:10:49 AM
Hi Remmie58, I too have the SS cylinder in my 5.5 Remington. I like the looks of it.  (T^

pics sam...
Title: Re: Cylinder & grips
Post by: Mad Dog Stafford on April 01, 2015, 11:16:31 AM
AHHHHH!!!! Crap! I knew some one was going to call me on this!  .))

Hang on, let me grab my crap out! Pictures coming.......... ;)
Title: Re: Cylinder & grips
Post by: Mad Dog Stafford on April 01, 2015, 11:48:05 AM
Okay, here it is.....
(http://i.imgur.com/nSD1wfm.jpg)
Title: Re: Cylinder & grips
Post by: Mad Dog Stafford on April 01, 2015, 11:48:49 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/vg6Al9w.jpg)
Title: Re: Cylinder & grips
Post by: Mad Dog Stafford on April 01, 2015, 11:50:00 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/Cj5BZIX.jpg)
Title: Re: Cylinder & grips
Post by: Mad Dog Stafford on April 01, 2015, 11:51:06 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/ViXYOin.jpg)
Title: Re: Cylinder & grips
Post by: Mad Dog Stafford on April 01, 2015, 11:51:56 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/VlOXj4H.jpg)
Title: Re: Cylinder & grips
Post by: Mad Dog Stafford on April 01, 2015, 11:53:23 AM
Okay, what do you think?
Title: Re: Cylinder & grips
Post by: ssb73q on April 01, 2015, 12:41:40 PM
Okay, what do you think?

Hi Sam, nice photos, thanks for posting them. IMO a blued cylinder looks best.  ;) ;) ;)

Regards,
Richard
Title: Re: Cylinder & grips
Post by: Remmie58 on April 01, 2015, 01:58:52 PM
Okay, what do you think?
You have excellent taste.  ])M
Title: Re: Cylinder & grips
Post by: Remmie58 on April 01, 2015, 02:06:05 PM
Okay, what do you think?

Hi Sam, nice photos, thanks for posting them. IMO a blued cylinder looks best.  ;) ;) ;)

Regards,
Richard
I like that I can switch the cylinder & grips back & forth, depending on my mood. I like the blued cylinder, too; but IMO, the look isn't balanced with nothing to compliment the brass triggerguard. If it were blued, I wouldn't have bothered changing anything. 
Title: Re: Cylinder & grips
Post by: BOOMSTICK BRUCE on April 01, 2015, 02:41:34 PM
purdy!!!!
Title: Re: Cylinder & grips
Post by: Sheriff Langston on April 01, 2015, 03:48:03 PM
Did I see what I thought I saw, Sam?
A LOADED, CAPPED cylinder looking right at you?
 (^h }),
Title: Re: Cylinder & grips
Post by: BOOMSTICK BRUCE on April 01, 2015, 03:57:26 PM
Did I see what I thought I saw, Sam?
A LOADED, CAPPED cylinder looking right at you?
 (^h }),

nothing to worry about, i dropped one once and the ball barely had enough oomph for me to feel it hit my boot, need a barrel for any type of dangerous velicity

still makes me uneasy looking at that though...
Title: Re: Cylinder & grips
Post by: Pat/Rick on April 01, 2015, 08:03:46 PM
 I have a pretty good imagination and thought, yeah, that'll look good! But the pic's really made the vision come  into its own! That's a unique look for sure!  I like it!
Title: Re: Cylinder & grips
Post by: G Dog on April 01, 2015, 09:56:00 PM
  I like it!

Me too.  Good pics Mad Dog, looks great.
Title: Re: Cylinder & grips
Post by: Gunslinger9378 on April 02, 2015, 12:40:04 AM
Dear Friends,
            I personally DO NOT LIKE Dual Colored Guns!  Due to an optical illusion that most of us Humans have, Silver colored guns always LOOK bigger that Blued guns, even though you KNOW they're the same size.  I took all the blueing off a Blank Firing Replica of the Colt SA Army one time, and when I put the blued version beside it on the table, MOST people gave their opinion that the De-Blued gun was slightly larger!  I KNEW it wasn't, but the optical effect will make it SEEM larger! 
            Taking the blueing off that pistol, taught me a valuable Lesson!  (ie:) "Never Do It Again!"  So from that point in my life ON. I have done my best to keep my guns Professional lookng, and touch up the blueing should I catch the gun against a had object when out.!  I have a small bottle of Cold Blueing, right before me on the desk as I type this, and should I notice that one of the girls is beginnng to show too much steel, I go to Ana's Bathroom, filch a Q-Tip or three, and go to work to restore them to Pristine Finish!
            I have found myself a .50 Cal. Rifle with double set triggers at a very reasonable price at a local Gunsmith!  It is a Traditions
Rifle, I believe it is the,"Traditions Hawken," and Hawg would doubtless be able to point out a great many ways in which this gun differ's from an original.  I don't really CARE whether a Purist could pick holes in the thing, It looks primative enugh to me, and I tried the set trigger, and it is SWEET!
            Just to start out with, I have no loading manuals that would give me a start on how much powder I should put behind a . 490 ball, to get a good killing velocity for one of the larger Ungulates  I might happen to meet during Hunting Season. Probably 2016 Hunting Season, Since I really think that this years Hunting seasons are over in this State. I have NEVER gotten Drawn for elk,
As I have heard that getting drawn for Elk in Arizona is not all that common.  Maybe you have to KNOW somene?  A married couple in my Ward at chirch always go hunting every year, and they have missed the last two Sundays in Church, and since both have important callings, I think they may be out at Elk Camp!   If I do get drawn next year, I would appreciate any advice some of you more experienced Hunters may have on the subject of a nice heavy load That if placed right, would make a merciful Kill on a large Ungulate of Elk Size?
            The rifle is very nicely finished, and with tax,, is $433, and a few cents total.  I have put one Hundred down on it, So when my check comes in on Friday, I can pop down and get that sucker!!  I really feel that unlike the !866 Carbine, this one will have the Chutzpah to, "Reach Out and Touch Something!"  "Oh Golley!": Just seen it is time to take the poor Dog Walkies!   See Yawl Tomorrow I guess!
                                                                                                          Johnnie Roper,Alias:Gunslinger9378.
Title: Re: Cylinder & grips
Post by: Mad Dog Stafford on April 02, 2015, 06:03:17 AM
Well, some like it and some don't. It's my gun so... :P

This SS cylinder has been loaded up for over a year. I wanted to SEE how long I can keep it loaded and do a report on it.

You notice that I have LIVE caps with the pink/red rubber gaurds on...I did that because I didn't want any air getting to the powder. Powder is FFG T7.

Title: Re: Cylinder & grips
Post by: DD4lifeusmc on April 02, 2015, 09:06:55 AM
Johnny start out at 60 gr  ffg. if it is like my CVA (35 yr old)  max was 90gr.
But start at 60 and work your way up 5 gr at a time. Fire at least 3 shots at each 5 gr.
Since you are testing and sighting in and you want all conditions equal for each shot,
Use some rubbing alcohol and patches to swab each shot.  make sure flash channel and nipple
is clear after swabbing.  Easiest is to blow through the nipple.

When you get up to about 80 or 85  if the accuracy starts dropping off again, you have most likely reached your max
load for that rifle for that ball and patch combination.
Now stay at that load and fire at least 10 clean shots.  then fire 3 to 5 with out cleaning. See if there is a change in accuracy
between a clean and fouled bore.
If accuracy is acceptable there's your load. If not drop back 5 and repeat.

I also stock and sell the round balls and patches  in the .490.    both pillow ticking and the plain cotton. Also have the larger powder flask for rifles, and powder horn if you want.
Title: Re: Cylinder & grips
Post by: DD4lifeusmc on April 02, 2015, 09:23:24 AM
MD   I can't say if I really like the contrast of the SS against the blued or not.
But as you say, it's your gun and it's what you like.
Have fun shooting it.

But maybe if you shipped the thing here to me to fondle a bit I could decide better.......... )%R
Title: Re: Cylinder & grips
Post by: Mad Dog Stafford on April 02, 2015, 09:33:34 AM
DD4, are you crazy?  ^y%    Just Kidding!  (?^
That SS cylinder is waiting for when(Who knows when  ::))I get a SS 1858 Remmy.  ;)
I'm thinking doing like Johnnie does, he has 12 or 13(maybe more)cylinders. I just like to get maybe like 3 or 4 more cylinders for this 1858 Remmy.

I really want to get some fake stag grips for this pistol too.  {?|
Title: Re: Cylinder & grips
Post by: Remmie58 on April 02, 2015, 04:15:43 PM
I really want to get some fake stag grips for this pistol too.  {?|
Check out the ones at gungrip.com
Title: Re: Cylinder & grips
Post by: Remmie58 on April 02, 2015, 04:28:35 PM
            I personally DO NOT LIKE Dual Colored Guns!  Due to an optical illusion that most of us Humans have, Silver colored guns always LOOK bigger that Blued guns, even though you KNOW they're the same size.                                                                                                          Roper,Alias:Gunslinger9378.
What's wrong with that? I like that the Piettas are a little bigger than the Ubertis, & that the silver makes 'em look even bigger. A .44 should be fairly massive (wish I still had my Walker). Whadaya want, a pocket pistol? (Actually, I wish I still had my '60 Army snubnose, too.)  &j(
& BTW, with the brass triggerguard, the gun is already 2-tone.
Title: Re: Cylinder & grips
Post by: Gunslinger9378 on April 09, 2015, 04:04:06 PM
Dear Friends,
            I have to be honest, but to me, a blued revolver with a bright shiny Nickel or Stainless cylinder, looks like a $7.oo cap pistol from the dollar store! Just sayin'!
                                                                                    Johnnie Roper,Alias:Gunslinger9378.
Title: Re: Cylinder & grips
Post by: Mad Dog Stafford on April 11, 2015, 11:26:08 AM
Johnnie!  (?^
Title: Re: Cylinder & grips
Post by: mazo kid on April 11, 2015, 01:36:49 PM
I think Sam needs to send that SS cylinder to ME to put in my SS '58 Remmie!
Title: Re: Cylinder & grips
Post by: Mad Dog Stafford on April 11, 2015, 04:37:07 PM
 :P  to Mazo!  (?^
Title: Re: Cylinder & grips
Post by: Gunslinger9378 on April 13, 2015, 02:02:59 PM
Dear Friends,
            I may say things that some of you disagree with, but By Golley, I am always truthful in my opinions!  I just like a plain Blued Steel Gun!  It looks like the originals, it looks Workmanlike. A soldier from the War of Northern Aggression wold have carried a plain Blue Steel gun, and,since his life may have depended upon it, he'd most likely have looked after it! Kept it clean and well oiled!
            I DO confess to being a little Flamboyant about grips!  I DO think that Faux (I cannot afford REAL Ivory!) Ivory looks very nice on a blued gun.  I was disappointed that the ones I bought online did NOT have the quality I needed!  The escutchion with the thread pulled right through the right hand grip, and when I asked the makers to replace it, they just sent me my $30.oo back!  I cannot recall what the company name was.  I'm going to have a look at, "Gungrip.com," and if it is the same company, I'll pass on them!
                                                                                     Johnnie Roper,Alias:Gunslinger9378. 
Title: Re: Cylinder & grips
Post by: Remmie58 on April 16, 2015, 12:22:31 AM
          I DO confess to being a little Flamboyant about grips!  I DO think that Faux (I cannot afford REAL Ivory!) Ivory looks very nice on a blued gun.  I was disappointed that the ones I bought online did NOT have the quality I needed!  The escutchion with the threaad pulled right through the right hand grip, and when I asked the makers to replace it, they just sent me my $30.oo back!  Icannt recall what the company name was.  I'm going to have a look at, "Gungrip.com," and if it is the same company, I'll pass on them!
                                                                                     Johnnie Roper,Alias:Gunslinger9378.
I've bought 2 pairs of imitation stag grips from that company. The 2nd was an improvement over the 1st -- except that the left-grip screw hole didn't need to be sunk in as far as it was. The end of the screw sticks out too far in the right grip. But, all that's needed is a washer or 2 at the screw head. It would be nice to get a perfect item; but if I did, it would prob'ly be a shock to my system, as it's so hard to find anything that's anywhere near perfect these days. BTW, I kept the stainless cylinder (which I think looks great -- def. not like a capgun), but reinstalled the wood grips. I like 'em 'cause they're stained a little darker than most.   
Title: Re: Cylinder & grips
Post by: Pat/Rick on April 16, 2015, 08:01:23 PM
I'm still kicking the bone grips idea around.


MD, give us a report on the cylinder firing please!  I've wanted to load up and extra cylinder and test it myself, maybe on a shelf in the woodshed, garage, or something. Load and cap with the caps sealed with bee's wax.
Title: Re: Cylinder & grips
Post by: mazo kid on April 16, 2015, 08:05:13 PM
Bone grips are a definite maybe for me too. I'll wait until the weather is nice before cutting them out though, too odoriferous for indoor work! {:(
Title: Re: Cylinder & grips
Post by: BartSr on April 17, 2015, 12:26:28 AM
Okay, what do you think?

I like it, keep it that way for sure.
Title: Re: Cylinder & grips
Post by: Hylander on April 17, 2015, 02:10:51 AM
Okay, what do you think?

Very Nice  ])M
I may have to get me one those SS Cylinders
Title: Re: Cylinder & grips
Post by: Remmie58 on April 17, 2015, 06:52:33 PM
Okay, what do you think?

Very Nice  ])M
I may have to get me one those SS Cylinders
Should get it now while they're still on sale at Cabela's (sale: $60; reg.: $85).
Title: Re: Cylinder & grips
Post by: Hewy on April 18, 2015, 08:37:20 PM
I like {?|