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Re: Disable cap and ball revolvers
« Reply #45 on: July 11, 2013, 09:31:16 AM »
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Re: Disable cap and ball revolvers
« Reply #46 on: July 11, 2013, 11:06:50 PM »

That's quite a collection.  I'll take 1 and 3, thank you!   ])M
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Re: Disable cap and ball revolvers
« Reply #47 on: July 18, 2013, 12:59:24 PM »
Hi, I live in the Socialist Republic of New York State. If I have caps, powder, and projectiles for cap and ball revolvers, I must have those revolvers added to my NYS pistol permit.

Many years ago I gave my brother-in-law 4 brass framed .44 1860 Army and Navy revolvers. He used them for display and never had materials necessary to fire them. He recently passed away and I suspect that those revolvers will be returned to me. I don't want to have those revolvers added to my pistol permit.

I would also like to use them as hangers and want them to somewhat function mechanically, but modify them so that they can't be easily fired. I was thinking of filling the nipples with epoxy to disable the revolvers. Do you think that modification would satisfy the legal requirement for a disabled revolver?

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Richard

Hi, Saranac Sam had the solution to my problem of disabling these revolvers so that I don't need to add them to my permit, remove the nipples and get the nipples out of my house. Since I don't have any other firearms that use the same size nipple, his solution is perfect.

However, to go one step further and pretty up the revolvers I eBay purchased 12-28 allen head screws to replace the nipples and protect the nipple thread, see:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/170974715816?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649

The 12-28x1/2" screws fit perfectly where the head almost sticks out enough to touch the hammer face. Just by looking one would never guess that these are inoperable revolvers. I will send the nipples to my daughter to hold just in case I sell the revolvers, or decide to put them on my permit.

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Re: Disable cap and ball revolvers
« Reply #48 on: July 18, 2013, 04:08:51 PM »
Degrease the heads & add a dab of "bronze" model airplane paint on the heads & it'll look capped! M__
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Re: Disable cap and ball revolvers
« Reply #49 on: July 18, 2013, 05:04:34 PM »
Degrease the heads & add a dab of "bronze" model airplane paint on the heads & it'll look capped! M__

Hi Sheriff, that's a great idea, thanks.  {?|

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Re: Disable cap and ball revolvers
« Reply #50 on: December 19, 2013, 09:38:28 AM »
Hi Sam, since I already have a pistol permit, getting the pistols on my NYS permit is nothing more than showing up at the county clerk's office and paying $3 for each pistol added to my permit. Other than my permit looking thicker and more used than a 5-year playboy calender, the real problem is getting them off the permit if something happens to me. The police confiscate all the pistols after death until another permit holder can receive them. Once on a permit, they will always remain registered firearms unless removed by god-knows-who. One way to rid myself, other than disabling the revolvers, is to sell them. However, I'm reluctant to part with them, they are so handsome with all that blued steel and polished brass.

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Hi, I finally got some good answers on trading or selling BP handguns that are on my NYS pistol permit. I can sell or trade any BP handgun that is on my pistol permit to anyone at any time. All I then need to do is write a note that says that I no longer own the firearm and give it the county clerk. The BP handgun will then be removed from my pistol permit. Modern handguns of course require FLL transfer and have more stringent permitting laws to remove from or add a handgun to a permit.

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Re: Disable cap and ball revolvers
« Reply #51 on: December 19, 2013, 09:44:59 AM »


  Good information  to know, thanks Richard   (T^
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Re: Disable cap and ball revolvers
« Reply #52 on: December 19, 2013, 05:43:55 PM »
Hi Sam, since I already have a pistol permit, getting the pistols on my NYS permit is nothing more than showing up at the county clerk's office and paying $3 for each pistol added to my permit. Other than my permit looking thicker and more used than a 5-year playboy calender, the real problem is getting them off the permit if something happens to me. The police confiscate all the pistols after death until another permit holder can receive them. Once on a permit, they will always remain registered firearms unless removed by god-knows-who. One way to rid myself, other than disabling the revolvers, is to sell them. However, I'm reluctant to part with them, they are so handsome with all that blued steel and polished brass.

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Re: Disable cap and ball revolvers
« Reply #53 on: December 19, 2013, 05:58:55 PM »
...you might consider moving out of that totalitarian miserable state

Hey, we need somebody on the front line.  Retreat is no longer an option.  We face an army that attacks by moving legal addresses, then voting our rights away from their new domicile.  Tyranny of the Majority.
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Re: Disable cap and ball revolvers
« Reply #54 on: December 19, 2013, 08:41:03 PM »
Hi Sam, since I already have a pistol permit, getting the pistols on my NYS permit is nothing more than showing up at the county clerk's office and paying $3 for each pistol added to my permit. Other than my permit looking thicker and more used than a 5-year playboy calender, the real problem is getting them off the permit if something happens to me. The police confiscate all the pistols after death until another permit holder can receive them. Once on a permit, they will always remain registered firearms unless removed by god-knows-who. One way to rid myself, other than disabling the revolvers, is to sell them. However, I'm reluctant to part with them, they are so handsome with all that blued steel and polished brass.

Regards,
Richard
you might consider moving out of that totalitarian miserable state

  I'm too old to move.  I have my house and piece of land and it's paid for.  I might have considered moving 40 years ago, but 40 years ago this was not a problem.  I have a pistol permit, like about 10,000 other people in my county, and it's not an issue.  I've had it for over 30 years.
  New York is not a totalitarian miserable state.  It could be; so could yours with a few wrong votes in your state legislature.

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Re: Disable cap and ball revolvers
« Reply #55 on: February 10, 2014, 05:11:56 PM »
Dear Richard,
            In the event of your demise, (God Forbid it be soon!) just tell your family that they do not ned to worry about the guns. They can ALL,
(Regardless if they are ones you have fired regularly!) be sold to a person who lives outr of New York. For example, in Arizona, no-one gives a plugged nickel if you own thirty thousand Percussion revolvers.  You can buy 'em as easily as your wife can purchase Cheese at the Supermarket!!! Most other states are the same! (Ilinoise, New York, and Californistan excepted of course!)  So all your family have to do in the event of a tragedy happening to yourself, is to sell them to members of the Forum who live in less restricted states!  The guys on this forum will give a fair price for the guns, and your family will be released from all resonsibility when the guns are in the hands of Forum Members who live in states such as Arizona, Texas,and many more!  Personally, I would not want a brass framed gun at any price!  I like to shot heavy loads
and such will destroy a brass framed gun in about a dozen rounds!  However, I know that some people who are more into Paper Punching, DO like these guns, and so if it were necesary, homes could be found for them on the Forum!
            In the meantime, just unscrew the nipples, put them into your wife's jewellrey box, and tell any nosy Communist Cops, they are wall hangers, that you don't have nipples to fit them, and would not waste the money on them if you could!  Case solved!
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Re: Disable cap and ball revolvers
« Reply #56 on: February 10, 2014, 09:43:47 PM »
Hi, I live in the Socialist Republic of New York State. If I have caps, powder, and projectiles for cap and ball revolvers, I must have those revolvers added to my NYS pistol permit.

Many years ago I gave my brother-in-law 4 brass framed .44 1860 Army and Navy revolvers. He used them for display and never had materials necessary to fire them. He recently passed away and I suspect that those revolvers will be returned to me. I don't want to have those revolvers added to my pistol permit.

I would also like to use them as hangers and want them to somewhat function mechanically, but modify them so that they can't be easily fired. I was thinking of filling the nipples with epoxy to disable the revolvers. Do you think that modification would satisfy the legal requirement for a disabled revolver?

Regards,
Richard
I don't suppose you would have any interest in trading one of those for an Uberti 1951 that is not in working condition, but would make a good wall hanger?

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Re: Disable cap and ball revolvers
« Reply #57 on: February 16, 2014, 12:21:10 PM »
I pray that it stops there. WA may soon have the liberal votes to follow suit here. In the meantime, Arizona is poised to nullify ALL federal firearms laws. I haven't heard if the Bill is up for final vote/signature yet. If WA ended up in the draconian column, I would very seriously consider AZ. As it is, no Form 4473 is needed yet for muzzleloaders in WA. BTW, felons are denied SS benefits. Just something to think about.

BTW, great looking revolvers!
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Re: Disable cap and ball revolvers
« Reply #58 on: February 16, 2014, 09:40:50 PM »
...BTW, felons are denied SS benefits...

I think you'll find that SS benefits are only suspended while incacerated.  SSI is still possible under certain circumstances.  Once out, SS can be reinstated.
In most states, you likewise give up your BP firearms when you go in, but you can reclaim them when you get back out.  Well, to be practical about it, purchase replacements for the ones destroyed when you went in.

http://www.socialsecurity.gov/OP_Home/rulings/oasi/27/SSR83-21-oasi-27.html

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