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Disable cap and ball revolvers
« on: March 08, 2013, 06:12:01 AM »
Hi, I live in the Socialist Republic of New York State. If I have caps, powder, and projectiles for cap and ball revolvers, I must have those revolvers added to my NYS pistol permit.

Many years ago I gave my brother-in-law 4 brass framed .44 1860 Army and Navy revolvers. He used them for display and never had materials necessary to fire them. He recently passed away and I suspect that those revolvers will be returned to me. I don't want to have those revolvers added to my pistol permit.

I would also like to use them as hangers and want them to somewhat function mechanically, but modify them so that they can't be easily fired. I was thinking of filling the nipples with epoxy to disable the revolvers. Do you think that modification would satisfy the legal requirement for a disabled revolver?

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Re: Disable cap and ball revolvers
« Reply #1 on: March 08, 2013, 07:07:30 AM »
WOW! That law stinks!  :D
I think the epoxy is a good idea but, wait for more people to on here to tell you.  ;)
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Re: Disable cap and ball revolvers
« Reply #2 on: March 08, 2013, 07:46:30 AM »
I doubt it.
Try filling the barrel with paper.  push down till about a 1/2 inch is showing at chamber end.
Coat bore with vaseline.
Fill that 1/2 in with grey / colored epoxy  Make it nice and smooth like it is welded.
Add some metal filing so a magnet would be attracted to it.  remove paper (or use a couple wads)
Then if ever needed to be used a wooden doweland hammer will drive the plug back out.
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Re: Disable cap and ball revolvers
« Reply #3 on: March 08, 2013, 09:12:33 AM »
Over here the rule would be to weld a steel plug into the bore and weld the barrel to the frame, which naturally will take any sort of value out of the piece.

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Re: Disable cap and ball revolvers
« Reply #4 on: March 08, 2013, 09:19:40 AM »
Darn Len! I could never be that mean to a gun.  :'(
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Re: Disable cap and ball revolvers
« Reply #5 on: March 08, 2013, 09:28:39 AM »
Over here the rule would be to weld a steel plug into the bore and weld the barrel to the frame, which naturally will take any sort of value out of the piece.

Hi Len, Where do you live? I would never do that to any firearm. Guess I'm either going to put the revolvers on my permit, or more probably treat them like my 40rd Mini-14 magazines and be a felon by ignoring the law.  {L*

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Re: Disable cap and ball revolvers
« Reply #6 on: March 08, 2013, 10:38:22 AM »
If it was me, I would be more than happy to become an outlaw, or move to Texas, they want people AND their guns.
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Re: Disable cap and ball revolvers
« Reply #7 on: March 08, 2013, 03:29:27 PM »
If you're seriously considering playing along with those fools' regs, & not giving any thought to leaving that commie state, you deserve all the misfortune you allow them to heap upon you.  It's intolerable!

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Re: Disable cap and ball revolvers
« Reply #8 on: March 08, 2013, 03:51:11 PM »
I don't think disabling them will have any effect legally.
I'd talk to a lawyer before doing anything.
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Re: Disable cap and ball revolvers
« Reply #9 on: March 08, 2013, 05:19:55 PM »
My suggestion was for faking it.
The law is going to want a permanent solution.
Welded shut.
If you want a hanger and not worry, buy a non firing replica and sell these.
But if you ever want to shoot them,
then You got two choices. One legal one illegal.
Personally, I'd lock them away from prying eyes.
Shoot them someplace no questions asked, Or save for an emergency.
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Re: Disable cap and ball revolvers
« Reply #10 on: March 16, 2013, 08:58:09 PM »
move... i did it, it worked out fine.. true freedom tastes way better then the same ole same ole...
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Re: Disable cap and ball revolvers
« Reply #11 on: March 18, 2013, 11:39:08 AM »
move... i did it, it worked out fine.. true freedom tastes way better then the same ole same ole...

Hi Bruce, I'm too old to move now. If I was younger I would certainly move out of New York State. If New York turns me into a felon, so be it.  &j(

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Re: Disable cap and ball revolvers
« Reply #12 on: March 18, 2013, 11:58:12 AM »
I'd haft to move. That would make me feel so couped up. All them Laws. :(
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Re: Disable cap and ball revolvers
« Reply #13 on: March 18, 2013, 01:16:37 PM »
No such thing as too old to move from a communist state.  }),
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Re: Disable cap and ball revolvers
« Reply #14 on: March 18, 2013, 01:30:08 PM »
No such thing as too old to move from a communist state.  }),
Truer words has never been spoken.  :)
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