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Re: Chassepot Mle 1866
« Reply #60 on: August 12, 2018, 07:16:26 AM »
Pic 1..the lubed bullet in place.
As i use greas as well as oil i clean the cartridge out with a regular brush and detergent when done.

Pic 2. After fiddling around with needed length this is what i arrived on.

Pic 3. This then being the "new" setup for primer. In this case a regular shotgun primer from RWS,installed into a wooden ring cut to size.
The wood..regular broomstick handle that i form on the lathe.
Idea is that the wooden disc will rupt upon firing and thus together with the much smaller primer evacuate the chamber,as does the rest of the stuff.

If this test turns out successful i´d say we´ve arrived on a usable concept.
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Re: Chassepot Mle 1866
« Reply #61 on: August 12, 2018, 09:44:07 PM »
amazing work and great thinking "outside the box" ( or copper shell ).......
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Re: Chassepot Mle 1866
« Reply #62 on: August 14, 2018, 02:03:23 AM »
Hola buenas dias.

Just another suggestion. I see what you have there appears to be a working solution, I am a firm believer in "If it ain't broke don't fix it" however.........

How about making the cartridge base out of thick CARDBOARD disks. Cardboard is totally combustible. I use it to get my log burner going in winter. It burns like crazy down to nothing.

I have used cardboard as dry wads in my revolvers, cut with a .45 wad punch very successfully no residues left.

I was thinking cardboard discs with holes drilled in the middle, insert the shotgun primers and with a hot glue gun cement them into the shrink sleeve casing ?

You could make them as thick as you like for rigidity by hot gluing them together depending on the thickness of the cardboard, if need be ?

In all probability when they go BOOM there will be nothing left on the end of your bolt nor in your chamber ?

Just a thought ?

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Re: Chassepot Mle 1866
« Reply #63 on: August 14, 2018, 03:22:52 PM »
You might be on to something there.
Cutting cardboard discs with a punch is simple enough i guess,as is glueing a number of them together.

It´s been proposed to use 3D printed plastic as well,but..plastic..i dunno.. Might very well be that that crap melts and makes havoc of it all.
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Re: Chassepot Mle 1866
« Reply #64 on: August 15, 2018, 11:27:57 AM »
Racing,   Here's a French company that sells a metallic cartridge conversion kit for the Chassepot.

http://www.hc-collection.com/chassepot-1886-metallic-cartridge-conversion-kit-for-chassepot-c102x3562131
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Re: Chassepot Mle 1866
« Reply #65 on: August 15, 2018, 11:40:56 AM »
Nice one Kaeto.

Attached is the instruction manual for the conversion kit.

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Re: Chassepot Mle 1866
« Reply #66 on: August 15, 2018, 05:30:59 PM »
Yup.
Very well aware of that. Point is,doing so would make the gun illegal to me.
Gastight cartridge indeed...and boom...illegal possession of a firearm.

As a needle gun with shrink sleeve cartridges..it´s not  ;)
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Re: Chassepot Mle 1866
« Reply #67 on: August 16, 2018, 02:43:02 AM »
I forgot about that, metallic cartridges and all.

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Re: Chassepot Mle 1866
« Reply #68 on: August 16, 2018, 04:56:59 AM »
Uhu.
Sport,to a degree,is to walk the jagged edge.

Ie;i could for instance very well use metallic cartridges,just sans the "bottom" of them. Then fab a primer holder of some sorts and take it from there.
Just reuse the fireformed brass until hell freezes over.
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Re: Chassepot Mle 1866
« Reply #69 on: August 16, 2018, 05:23:26 AM »
Cardboard discs ?????

Metallic cases and card disc bases, how EASY would that be ?

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Re: Chassepot Mle 1866
« Reply #70 on: August 16, 2018, 07:08:01 PM »
Very actually.
Fireformed brass that lacks its "bottom". This being replaced with a piece to work as primer holder/fixture AND will let go of cartridge upon firing.
Ergo,not a gastight cartridge.

Flipside though is that the brass that´d work for a Chassepot would be the 460....aaaaaaaaaaaand thus is price wise goes to hell in a handbasket in a hurry.
It´d be a million times more economical to just turn the things out of solid brass in such a case on a CNC and be done with it already.
As the brass can be reused to hearts content really....one time outlay.
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